• SONAR
  • Committing Region FX (p.2)
2014/07/14 22:34:31
Splat
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Freeze the track. It gives you best of both worlds since you can unfreeze if you need to edit in Melodyne again.


Makes sense. I guess I have fear of freezing with RegionFX. I still back up the original before RegionFX gets anywhere near it. Not saying RegionFX is unreliable, I'm just easily scared.
2014/07/15 03:20:53
WallyG
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
... There is rarely a need to save a copy however since a region effect can easily be removed giving you back the original clip anyway.


Is this only true if you "freeze" the track?
Walt
 
2014/07/15 04:12:17
Sanderxpander
As far as I understand the original will still be available as an audio file in your audio folder. If you REALLY run into trouble you can import from there.
2014/07/15 05:57:02
Frink
Anderton
Yes. You need to create the copy yourself.


I also suggest you copy yourself. Then, if it doesn't work out, you can backup the version of yourself from before the change and not have any idea that you did anything. This does, of course, introduce the risk that you might keep trying it again and again and get stuck in an infinite loop. I once spent the whole of September like this.
2014/07/15 06:05:35
Splat
You are saying I can melodyne myself? Great Scott!! Maybe I can use it on my posts...
2014/07/15 07:38:36
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
WallyG
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
... There is rarely a need to save a copy however since a region effect can easily be removed giving you back the original clip anyway.


Is this only true if you "freeze" the track?
Walt
 



No it works like this. When you select a region and ARA'fy it, SONAR first bounces down that selection and turns it into an ARA clip. The ARA clip provides for the communications gateway to Melodyne. Now if you select the clip and break the ARA connection by removing Melodyne, what is left behind is the ORIGINAL bounced clip. i.e. the melodyne modifications are now lost. So going back to the original is essentially the same as removing melodyne. There is no need for extra copies in most cases.
2014/07/15 18:42:37
WallyG
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
WallyG
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
... There is rarely a need to save a copy however since a region effect can easily be removed giving you back the original clip anyway.


Is this only true if you "freeze" the track?
Walt
 



No it works like this. When you select a region and ARA'fy it, SONAR first bounces down that selection and turns it into an ARA clip. The ARA clip provides for the communications gateway to Melodyne. Now if you select the clip and break the ARA connection by removing Melodyne, what is left behind is the ORIGINAL bounced clip. i.e. the melodyne modifications are now lost. So going back to the original is essentially the same as removing melodyne. There is no need for extra copies in most cases.


Thanks! I just tried that on a song I'm working on and yes if I don't bounce to clips, I can easily restore it to the original sound by removing that Melodyne region.
 
For some reason I had it in my head that you had to bounce the clip you've been editing with Melodyne before you can go on to another section of that track otherwise it wouldn't let you create another region. I was also concerned that if I exported that song to WAV, my edits would be lost if I didn't bounce to clips.
 
Walt
2014/07/16 04:54:17
millzy
I've been using bounce to clips too, but good tip Noel, using freeze makes sense.
 
Cheers,
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