rbowser

57GregyI've used Cam Studio, and it has options to record from either the sound device or from a microphone

Sure, it can accept any audio input you set up - But on a computer set up for music production, why would a microphone be plugged in anywhere but the audio interface-?
 
Randy B.

I think that we can only choose one input signal inside Cam Studio.  You can screencapture and record the sounds coming from Sonar but if you want to make a voiceover, it's not possible, you have to choose one or the other.  I had this problem last year when I had to make a video tutorial for Coursera.

Atsuko...I think that we can only choose one input signal inside Cam Studio.  You can screencapture and record the sounds coming from Sonar but if you want to make a voiceover, it's not possible, you have to choose one or the other...

I have the computer's sound card turned off as a sound source, so my audio interface is the only choice.  In the past when I had need of recording both voice over and music in Sonar, I just had the mike plugged into my interface as usual, and used the interface's controls to have a balance between the two.
 
RB

rbowser

Atsuko...I think that we can only choose one input signal inside Cam Studio.  You can screencapture and record the sounds coming from Sonar but if you want to make a voiceover, it's not possible, you have to choose one or the other...

I have the computer's sound card turned off as a sound source, so my audio interface is the only choice.  In the past when I had need of recording both voice over and music in Sonar, I just had the mike plugged into my interface as usual, and used the interface's controls to have a balance between the two.
 
RB

It's what I expected to do with Cam Studio but the program is very limited concerning inputs and outputs.  But, for a free program, it's ok.

AtsukoIt's what I expected to do with Cam Studio but the program is very limited concerning inputs and outputs.  But, for a free program, it's ok.

Hmm - I don't get it.  You choose your interface as the input - that's just one input - But with both the music and mike being mixed in the interface with its controls, why isn't that the audio you're getting into Cam Studio-?
 
RB

rbowser

AtsukoIt's what I expected to do with Cam Studio but the program is very limited concerning inputs and outputs.  But, for a free program, it's ok.

Hmm - I don't get it.  You choose your interface as the input - that's just one input - But with both the music and mike being mixed in the interface with its controls, why isn't that the audio you're getting into Cam Studio-?
 
RB

Let's say you have various inputs in your interface, Cam Studio will only show one (we don't choose the interface, but the input).  Note that if you're using a mic in one input, you don't want it to go to Sonar because you're doing a voiceover explaining how to do an automation, for example. Then, you hear the sound of Sonar but not the sound of your voice. I don't know if they changed it in the new version but surely it's a problem with a lot of screencapture softwares, mostly, the free ones.  I've heard that Cantanya is one of the best softwares to make tutorials because of the routing possibilities.

Atsuko...Let's say you have various inputs in your interface, Cam Studio will only show one (we don't choose the interface, but the input)...

When I did this, and as I said before, I could get the microphone and sound from Sonar to record, because the signals were being mixed in my interface.  One input into the vid capture program, and that one input is from the interface.  The signal coming out of the interface is a mix of voice and music, controlled by the setting of the Direct/USB knob on the interface. 
 
Randy B.
 
 

But as the  OP said his real problem is his audio interface does not show as an audio input option inside the capture program. This seems to be the issue. One other thing that might cause this is his on board sound card is still the default in Windows. Might work to totaly disable the Real tech and see if the capture program recognises the Edirol.
 
If the only audio device it will use is the real tech it's no big deal to tell Sonar to use it in MME mode and switch back.
Only issue could then be if the projects Clock rate is not available to the Real Tech.
Which is another thought.. Might be the projects at 48 Hz and the capture program can only use 44.1.

Dlion16 and Randy you’ve cracked the problem. Remembering that this is all new to me I will describe what I have done to date, following your advice.
 
The Edirol interface has audio input and output using RCA Phonotype connectors. It also has a “loop back setting” in its recording source. I have used a short phono type cable from an old stereo amplifier system I once used and joined the left and right inputs to the left and right outputs and moved the selector switch, on the recording source, to loop back.
 
I have then I have re-tried the two Screen Capture programs, Microsoft Windows Expression Encoder 4 Capture and BB Express FlashBack Recorder. Expression still delivers video only.  Flashback  captured the video and the sound when I set the recording source to IN(UA-4FX) but it is not perfect as it “beeps” every so often, usually on the longer notes of the composition. I’ll need to fiddle a little with the knobs on the interface to see if it makes a difference.
 
 I’ll also try out CAM Studio and any other that anyone can recommend and is easy to use. I’m not adverse to purchasing a program but need to ensure it will meet my needs beforehand.
 
For Cactus Music – I take on board your comment on the sample rate. The Expression Recorder allowed me to set that to 48 or 44.1 and I tried both options but to no avail. The Flashback did not give me the option so I’ve no idea what rate it is using, but it does produce sound.
So now, more questions:

1. Does the action I have taken, as described above, make sense? Or am I missing something?
2. The “patch cable” I’m using is just an old cable I had spare. Are there dedicated cables that would make a difference?
3. Does anybody have any suggestions for an appropriate capture and video program that will not break the bank?

Alan   

camtasia ($300) is the best i've used. there may be a "grey" version as well.

Hi, rbowser, did you do it with CamStudio?  If so, next time I need to make a tutorial I'll try your method.
Thanks!