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2014/07/08 00:26:07
sharke
Might be worth chiming in here that I also use Battery 4 with absolutely no lag or other problems. It's a fine VST "under the hood" and the same could be said for Battery 3 as well. You should definitely concentrate on working out what's going on on your system because it's not a particularly CPU-intensive plugin. 
2014/07/08 02:19:29
Kev999
robert_e_bone
I have Battery 3, and it simply does not fail for me.



Same here. I have been using Battery 3 regularly since 2007 and have come across any bugs whatsoever.
2014/07/08 09:36:48
GHOSTNOTES
robert_e_bone
I am not at all sure what your 'not on the input side' means.  Please elaborate.
 
So, you have en electronic kit running into your PC, and have an Alesis I/026.  Kewl.
 
IF I am understanding things correctly, you are having trouble when you try to trigger sounds in Battery.
 
It seems to me your ASIO Buffer Size is WAY WAY too high for recording purposes, and results in too much latency to ever be properly used for recording.
 
When I am recording, or just playing live using Sonar, I use an ASIO Buffer Size of 128.  You need a latency of around 10 milliseconds or a little less to be able to play and record without noticeable lag.
 
On the other hand, once you are DONE with recording, and begin the mixing process, THEN you want your ASIO Buffer Size way high - perhaps up to 1024, to allow a large enough buffer for more robust effects (Perfect Space or Boost 11 are a couple), to do their thing.  When mixing or mastering, you aren't worried about lag anymore.
 
Please try setting your ASIO Buffer Size down to 128, then cycling the audio interface, to reload the drivers in memory, and give it another shot.
 
Thanks, 
 
Bob Bone
 


 
I will give it a try.
I just meant that some interfaces have a midi input as well  that's all.
2014/07/08 10:05:06
robert_e_bone
Thanks for explaining - I was clueless as to what that meant.  :)
 
For the rest of time, you will need to be aware of your current ASIO Buffer Size, as its size will have to change back and forth from quite small to quite large, depending on whether or not you are recording or have moved on to mixing/mastering.
 
Keep it low (128 is pretty good) during recording, and keep it high (1024) when mixing, and you should be OK.
 
Additionally, it really matters what specific plugins you have loaded into your projects when you are recording, because some of them can REALLY mess up your latency and cause lots of problems.
 
Certain plugins are not meant to be used during recording - and it has to do with how they do what they do for a particular effect.  The things to look out for are plugins that either use something called 'look-ahead' processing, or those that chew up a lot of CPU.  Examples of these would include Perfect Space and Boost 11, but there are others as well.
 
If your ASIO Buffer Size is low, and you are still having lag problems or crackles and such, you can quickly test whether or not the cause is one or more of the plugins, by temporarily bypassing all effects.  There is a shortcut key to do this - hit 'E' on your computer keyboard to toggle off/on the effects.  If your effects are all bypassed and your lag/crackles go away, then you know that one or more of your currently loaded plugins is causing the problems, and you will need to swap it out for something else, until you finish recording.  Once you move on to mixing, you can put that effect back in, as you will also have adjusted your ASIO Buffer Size much higher, and that will allow the effect to process properly.
 
Bob Bone
 
2014/07/08 15:19:55
GHOSTNOTES
It is still not triggering when i hit it. I checked my sensitivity and velocity settings but for some reason it will not trigger all the time,only when it wants to which is randomly. Thinking about youtubing it, it is the only program/plugin that has any issues whatsoever.      
2014/07/08 16:49:07
robert_e_bone
1.  Can you elaborate on the random triggering a bit?  I am trying to understand if it is particular drum kit pieces that aren't sounding, or if you are playing on a single drum and it plays once then skips playing a couple times then plays again - that kind of thing.
 
2.  With the change of your ASIO Buffer Size to 128, what are the current Sonar-reported latency values?
 
3.  IF you have any effects loaded into this project, can you please specify EXACTLY which ones they are? (not just EQ, but WHICH EQ, etc).
 
4.  When you have the Battery UI open, and you hit your different drum pads, are you seeing midi activity in Battery?  (I am wondering if the note names/numbers are not lining up between the cells and the pads).
 
Thanks, 
 
Bob Bone
 
2014/07/09 11:17:07
GHOSTNOTES
robert_e_bone
1.  Can you elaborate on the random triggering a bit?  I am trying to understand if it is particular drum kit pieces that aren't sounding, or if you are playing on a single drum and it plays once then skips playing a couple times then plays again - that kind of thing.
 
A: I can start to tap at a constant rate and it will randomly trigger. Speed and power does not matter.
 
2.  With the change of your ASIO Buffer Size to 128, what are the current Sonar-reported latency values?
 
A: 13.8 milliseconds round trip
 
3.  IF you have any effects loaded into this project, can you please specify EXACTLY which ones they are? (not just EQ, but WHICH EQ, etc).
 
A: Three gates ,two reverbs and 1 eq all Sonitus
 
 
4.  When you have the Battery UI open, and you hit your different drum pads, are you seeing midi activity in Battery?  (I am wondering if the note names/numbers are not lining up between the cells and the pads).
 
A: I see them changing cells... yes
Thanks, 
 
Bob Bone
 





2014/07/09 11:18:11
GHOSTNOTES
I think i will post up a video, maybe that will help.
 
2014/07/09 12:15:17
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2014/07/09 13:30:27
Splat
Have you tried it with other patches, or starting an empty patch and loading in new sounds?
 
How are your voice groups configured and what about polyphony? You may have cells assigned to the same voice group...
 
Couple of threads to look at....
 
http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/threads/midi-trigger-pad-doesnt-sound-in-battery-3.64931/
 
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/rap-hip-hop-engineering-production/682520-battery-3-again-samples-get-cut-off.html
 
 
Cheers...
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