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AFAIK In X2 you can only automate Clip Gain from inside takelanes, and thats manually.

Same here. But I prefer that manual Gain Automation editing than trying to use Volume Automation by recording fader movements or trying to use the pencil tool. The Faders are simply too small for fast, meanwhile accurate adjustments. The pencil tool is a bit over-zealous with points, and is difficult to maneuver in a tiny take lane without some serious Zoom. Forget Touch. With the current Sonar X2 interface, trying to Automate with Touch is definitely a no-go. 

Thank you all! If I understand correctly, track gain can't be automated, so it seems the manual is wrong.

the manual is actually correct because they are referring to volume as gain. if you group the volume control on a track it is called gain not volume. the buses section of the manual correctly state input gain as a parameter that can be automated - and that is not referred to in the track section.

Now I'm thoroughly confused. Why would any DAW maker call Volume, Gain yet give them each their own respective controls? If this is what they did, then I'm tossing the manual out--its confusing enough as it is.

Lets make this very simple. There is a gain envelope and a volume envelope. The volume envelope controls the track fader and the gain envelope doesn't. 

The gain envelope can be automated and the volume envelope can be automated. Now, when you enable the WRITE Mode and let sonar record your movements, it records is as the volume envelope, not the gain envelope.

Understand? 

Cj

but be careful, because if you add volume and gain to a group then volume is shown as gain and gain is shown as volume.  same confusion with midi tracks - except they don't show a name for volume or pan and only velocity is clearly labeled.

Swamp, now you really confused the poor soul :) 

Cj

imagine how i felt first time i added midi volume to a group and midi pan to a group.  ugh.  

I just saw this and wanted to jump in - because I've got X2 and CANNOT get the faders to do volume automation; I have had sonar a long time and NO trouble with this - write enable, read enable, move the faders and sonar remembers them - X2 it's not happening - I CAN write nodes on the track and X2 sees and remembers those - but it will not let me make moves with the fader, it does not remember them - this was NEVER the case before in Sonar - I would like to think I've just got something on I shouldn't but I cannot figure out why it is not recording the fader volume moves - so if anybody has seen this problem or knows something about it I'd love some help - again, I've got the track write enabled and read enabled, and I can draw nodes - but nothing with the faders.

Have you tried right-clicking the fader you want to automate and set it to "write" from there?