2013/03/24 22:20:25
Cactus Music

 NS10's have crap low frequency extension so that probably wasn't a problem for you

Yes exactly ! And so that's why even though they have pour low end you always get that right in the mix. If you "hear" bass in your mix on an NMS10 you know it's going to blow up your car stereo. 
Durring a time that I wasn't doing any recording I put them in my front room to use as my home stereo,,, Yuk, how the hell do these things work so well for mixing when they sound so bad as a home system box? 
But they certainly save me a lot of time remixing. 
2013/03/25 08:34:37
OldNick
WOW! I might just go back to the cans and then tweaking on various home/car/camper systems. There seems to be so much "feeling" about what is good and what is bad and rooms vs speakers etc, I really do wonder if the use of cans that accentuate everything(compared to room listening), and just getting used to how the mix sounds "in the real world" is just a lot simpler and more accurate than bothering with NF monitors. That was how I worked before, and I was Ok with it. However I was concerned that cans give too dramatic a mix. But given the amount and depths of feeling, the fact that the NS 10's are a legend for all of their really awful behaviour in the bass region, and all the personal opinion about monitors, to which I add the controversy about room dynamics
2013/03/25 15:07:49
bitflipper
Sorry, there's no easy way out. Cans avoid one set of problems but bring a host of other problems.
2013/03/25 17:32:31
Fog
mackie mk1 824's that I have , came with calibration charts for each speaker.. dunno if others who own em remember that... they are like certain electronics where there is an acceptable tolerance + / - 


because they were expensive , I don't use them for every day stuff or early production. I use 2 other sets , which were cheaper and I'd rather they got damaged tbh.



2013/03/25 23:58:41
losguy
Not sure if this is what you meant, but it's worth a try:
 
http://www.automation-drive.com/flat-speakers 
http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/02/new-flat-speaker-tech-could-make-public-places-even-louder/
 

On Edit: Since no one bit, I should mention that, of course, I was kidding. Either no one noticed, or (my su****ion) it was a bad joke, for which I apologize profusely.  OK, 'nuff of that, carry on!
On second edit: Now the language filter is getting ridiculous. I mean seriously, filtering out the noun form of the word "suspect", just because it contains a derogatory term for something that my wife calls me on a regular basis! :D
 
2013/03/26 12:12:33
batsbrew
bitflipper


Sorry, there's no easy way out. Cans avoid one set of problems but bring a host of other problems.

THIS.^^^


you will always be chasing your tail with this, until you get some decent monitors.
and that's only the start.....





2013/03/28 14:39:14
Cactus Music
you will always be chasing your tail with this, until you get some decent monitors.  and that's only the start..... 


+100
2013/03/28 18:01:21
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
Fog


mackie mk1 824's that I have , came with calibration charts for each speaker.. dunno if others who own em remember that... they are like certain electronics where there is an acceptable tolerance + / - 


because they were expensive , I don't use them for every day stuff or early production. I use 2 other sets , which were cheaper and I'd rather they got damaged tbh.

i don't get the point here? why are you afraid of damaging the speakers? they are pretty strong animals and with a monitor controller at your desk to turn them down when unplugging gear there should be no danger ...
 
i would use them all them time to get the best sound and most reliable reproduction of incoming signals / recorded material from the first second I start micing up / push record ...
 
 
2013/03/28 19:33:48
bitflipper
I'm sure glad my monitors are seemingly bulletproof, else I'd have destroyed them long ago. My interface defaults to full volume when it's first turned on, but I have to turn it down to -30db to get my K-calibrated loudness on the speakers. If I forget to turn it down - ouch! 110db! Fortunately, the monitors appear to be indestructible. Maybe it has something to do with making woofers using the same stuff they make bulletproof vests and aircraft components out of.
2013/03/29 12:55:08
Cactus Music
I'm in the old habit of turning my levels off during shut down, I monitor through my 01v so I mute the master.  I don't touch the power amp as it is underneath my desk and I turn it on and off with the power bar,  the volume ( attenuation)  is set at 3 o clock.  It's and old Yamaha p2100 and must have a soft start relay as I never hear it kick in.  
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