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2014/07/01 18:04:23
Beepster
Okay... I guess I was mistaken earlier thinking the Sat Knob was unrelated to tape type noise whatsits. I thought it was just a simple tube drive type sim so I learned something. It's still completely different than the tape sim to my ears. I like it on clean bass tracks for some extra grit and I've used it on some of the limited vocal stuff I've done so far.
 
On a related note it'd be nice to see some of the individual Softube PC modules pop up in the Cake store on special from time to time. They look like they could be cool for some of my stuff. I think some of the included Blue Tubes stuff copy the same hardware though but I haven't really looked into that.
2014/07/01 18:40:59
LA2A
CJaysMusic
You actually are a fan of their company, as you stated you like the Tape Saturation plugin. I would do more research before making such claims about a company. This will avoid 'the old foot in the mouth syndrome' you recently caught.
 
In music production, what works best for you and your sound will not work best for me and my sound.
In other words, To Each Their Own. One plugin is not better than the other, as they both server specific needs depending thousands of variables.
 
CJ




The Tape Saturation for the pro-channel and the Softube Saturation are two different plugins! It looks like you actually have 'the old foot in the mouth syndrome'
 
Anyway, in response to those who enjoy Softube plugins, I have tried many Softube plugins in many music scenarios and i find their modelling sup-par, whether it be their compressors or EQs or whatever, they have never convinced me, ever! Whether that means they're usable or not in any given DAW context is a 'totally different matter', i'm not talking about whether they're usable in a music context, i just simply don't like Softube's modelling in their plugins, i have found them wanting, and further i have found other third-party plugins that i deem superior and more accurate in the accuracy of the modelling.
 
FWIW if I turn-up the drive knob on the Softube Saturation plugin, I find that it readily displays a harsh brittleness quite unlike tape, even with the drive knob at only maybe 0.7 i find it too harsh for many things in contrast to an actual pleasing convincing Tape saturation affect. Just sayin.
2014/07/01 18:49:19
jb101
The Sat nob is great, but I rarely use it past twenty to/quarter to.
 
The "Keep High/Neutral/Keep Low" switch is great, too.  I use it on vocals to only add saturation on the highs, similarly on bass tracks.
 
Great plug in..  but use sparingly.
 
I used to use it far more until the Ca2a came out.  It is still on most on my vocal tracks, and rock bass tracks, though.
 
If you find " this Softube plugin to be less than optimal under multiple scenarios", then try not turning it up to eleven.
 
If you find  "the Tape Saturation in the Pro Channel performs better", then you are comparing Apples to Orangutans.
 
2014/07/01 21:19:31
sharke
jb101
The Sat nob is great, but I rarely use it past twenty to/quarter to.
 
The "Keep High/Neutral/Keep Low" switch is great, too.  I use it on vocals to only add saturation on the highs, similarly on bass tracks.
 
Great plug in..  but use sparingly.
 
I used to use it far more until the Ca2a came out.  It is still on most on my vocal tracks, and rock bass tracks, though.
 
If you find " this Softube plugin to be less than optimal under multiple scenarios", then try not turning it up to eleven.
 
If you find  "the Tape Saturation in the Pro Channel performs better", then you are comparing Apples to Orangutans.
 


When you say you use the switch to only apply it to the highs, do you mean you have it set to "keep highs?" Because if so, I was under the impression that it meant "leave the highs untouched."
2014/07/01 22:04:02
Fabio Rubato
sharke
Yeah the Softube saturation is on Dave Pensado's list of essential plugins. I've always been a fan, it's excellent when used sparingly. Another excellent plug if you're looking to fatten tracks up and give them some grit is the Sausage Fattener. Sounds great on almost anything, especially if you just give it a light sprinkle.

Sharke...off topic, had a look at that Sausage Fattener...looks good. Is it a 64bit VST? Doesn't seem to say.
2014/07/01 22:17:25
dlesaux
Although I'm a big fan of Softube products I have to agree with the OP. I find the Tube Saturation PC module much more subtle and musical sounding. I use it a lot while I almost never use the Saturation Knob. The fact that the volume goes up as the saturation goes up makes it hard to use in my opinion.
2014/07/02 03:02:21
Sanderxpander
I'm not sure about Sausage Fattener's 64 bitness but it works fine in Sonar 64 bit.
2014/07/02 05:29:44
KPerry
The Sat Knob is a good one: I use it to add a little bit of dirt/grit to virtualy all tracks (never use it on a bus though).  You can actually use quite a lot, to the extent that it sounds too much on the track solo'd, but sounds good in the mix.
 
Use it as the first plug-in in the Pro Channel chain as it can affect the level quite significantly.
2014/07/02 06:28:11
jb101
sharke
jb101
The Sat nob is great, but I rarely use it past twenty to/quarter to.
 
The "Keep High/Neutral/Keep Low" switch is great, too.  I use it on vocals to only add saturation on the highs, similarly on bass tracks.
 



When you say you use the switch to only apply it to the highs, do you mean you have it set to "keep highs?" Because if so, I was under the impression that it meant "leave the highs untouched."



That's what I thought, until I actually listened to it.  Try it yourself.
 
Maybe even put it before Span or somesuch, so you can see the effect as well.
 
Edited Span for spam spam spam, wonderful spam..
2014/07/02 08:35:57
Del
 



When you say you use the switch to only apply it to the highs, do you mean you have it set to "keep highs?" Because if so, I was under the impression that it meant "leave the highs untouched."



That's what I thought, until I actually listened to it.  Try it yourself.
 
Maybe even put it before Spam or somesuch, so you can see the effect as well.




jb101
You meant 'SPAN' and not spam, correct?
 
Just wonderin......
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