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2014/07/02 09:07:20
BlixYZ
Aren't we talking about 2 totally different devices here? Soft be saturation is TUBE saturation while the tape emulator adds TAPE saturation. These could not be more different devices. Magnetic tape and vacuum tubes are both described to add warmth, but only one is used to add grit and bite at it's higher gain (tube) while tape adds a pleasing sonic "smearing" when highly saturated.
2014/07/02 09:12:08
John T
LA2A
 
FWIW if I turn-up the drive knob on the Softube Saturation plugin, I find that it readily displays a harsh brittleness quite unlike tape, even with the drive knob at only maybe 0.7 i find it too harsh for many things in contrast to an actual pleasing convincing Tape saturation affect. Just sayin.


 
It doesn't emulate tape saturation, so it would sound "quite unlike tape".
2014/07/02 09:14:53
John T
Ah, I see BlixYZ already said that.
2014/07/02 09:47:10
LA2A
 

Del said... "When you say you use the switch to only apply it to the highs, do you mean you have it set to "keep highs?" Because if so, I was under the impression that it meant "leave the highs untouched."




OK, well let me confirm for you. If you want to keep the highs 'untouched' switch to "Keep High", if you want to leave the lows 'untouched' switch to "Keep Low". That's the official explanation from Softube.
 
 
 
BlixYZ
Aren't we talking about 2 totally different devices here? The Softube Saturation Knob is TUBE saturation while the tape emulator adds TAPE saturation.
Magnetic tape and vacuum tubes are both described to add warmth, but only one is used to add grit and bite at it's higher gain (tube) while tape adds a pleasing sonic "smearing" when highly saturated.



 
Also, John T said... "It doesn't emulate tape saturation, so it would sound 'quite unlike tape'."
 
 
 
 
My answer... Well not really, the quoted statement about the Softube Saturation Knob at the Presonus website (They also have it for free in their DAW)...  "We are very pleased to make available to all Studio One 2 users the new Softube Saturation Knob extension. With sweet 'Tape Saturation' on a single knob, plus the ability to affect all frequencies, or just the low or high end, this plug-in is quickly becoming a classic."
 
 



2014/07/02 09:55:54
sharke
Sanderxpander
I'm not sure about Sausage Fattener's 64 bitness but it works fine in Sonar 64 bit.


I am not sure either, I need to check it out. The only problem I've had with it is that sometimes when you have the GUI open it seems to make everything else sluggish. However since the controls are so simple you can set them quickly and close it immediately. Great on bass and drums.
2014/07/02 10:05:57
John T
LA2A
 
My answer... Well not really, the quoted statement about the Softube Saturation Knob at the Presonus website (They also have it for free in their DAW)...  "We are very pleased to make available to all Studio One 2 users the new Softube Saturation Knob extension. With sweet 'Tape Saturation' on a single knob, plus the ability to affect all frequencies, or just the low or high end, this plug-in is quickly becoming a classic."
 



Presonus have got it wrong then. That's not what Softube say about it:
 
http://www.softube.com/index.php?id=satknob
2014/07/02 10:12:44
SvenArne
LA2A
 If you want to keep the highs 'untouched' switch to "Keep High", if you want to leave the lows 'untouched' switch to "Keep Low". That's the official explanation from Softube.

 
If that's the case, then mine's wired in reverse!  
 
 
With sweet 'Tape Saturation' on a single knob, plus the ability to affect all frequencies, or just the low or high end, this plug-in is quickly becoming a classic."

 
Maybe the Presonus marketing crew are wired in reverse as well? I use the Knob all the time, but in "keep low" 95% of the time. It's not a tape sound to me, more like a general distortion/harmonics synth. It's is great for making a bass track audible in a mix without sounding obviously distorted and for vocals and keyboard instruments as well! 
 
Sven
2014/07/02 10:27:31
jb101
Del
 



When you say you use the switch to only apply it to the highs, do you mean you have it set to "keep highs?" Because if so, I was under the impression that it meant "leave the highs untouched."



That's what I thought, until I actually listened to it.  Try it yourself.
 
Maybe even put it before Spam or somesuch, so you can see the effect as well.




jb101
You meant 'SPAN' and not spam, correct?
 
Just wonderin......




Yes, span, apologies.  I shall fix the post.
2014/07/02 10:30:10
jb101
LA2A
 

Del said... "When you say you use the switch to only apply it to the highs, do you mean you have it set to "keep highs?" Because if so, I was under the impression that it meant "leave the highs untouched."




OK, well let me confirm for you. If you want to keep the highs 'untouched' switch to "Keep High", if you want to leave the lows 'untouched' switch to "Keep Low". That's the official explanation from Softube.
 
 




 
Then, you either you haven't listened to it, or you have cloth ears..
2014/07/02 10:37:23
John T
I've not done any objective testing on it, but to my ears, it doesn't leave any frequency range completely untouched, wherever you set it. The switch seems to bias it one way or the other, but in practical use, it always comes down to flipping the switch back and forth and using trial and error to get the a sound that does what you want.
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