Sanderxpander
Dude, you can't even count how many industry pro's have heaped praise on the Waves stuff that you dismiss. Arturia gets praise from top keyboardists all the time saying their products are indistinguishable from real vintage synths but I still bought a Moog Voyager, a MicroMoog and a JX10 because it simply isn't true.
It's called marketing, it's exactly like lying except the judge says it's ok.

It's called marketing, exactly, but not all of it is marketing, some people have simply stated their mind on the matter, they don't need to be paid by anyone, and have you ever heard anyone claim that a Waves plugin sounds 'identical' to it's real-life counterpart? I haven't!
It doesn't matter how many industry experts endorse or approve or like for example Waves plugins, like you said, that means nothing; but, the statements i have quoted make the claim for Slate digital's plugins being indistinguishable from the real-thing, blind tests have proven it, and in particular men of note, not just industry jo blo experts, but big-time top-tier experts have validated Stephen's claims. Many producers have replaced their hardware and gone digital because they deem some brands like Waves and UAD and Softube close to the real thing, but other industry experts have now gone digital ONLY BECAUSE Slate's plugins sound 'identical' to the real thing, and therein lies the difference! Even Rupert Neve himself has endorsed the situation, and Rupert doesn't need to lie to anyone, he's already a multi-millionaire, he's an analog head if ever there was one, right? Why does he need to tell lies? Well truth be known he simply doesn't need to lie.
So, i'm stating that only Yamaha VCM and Slate Digital have achieved 'authentic' 99% analog emulation, the 1% shortfall though would be even less than the difference between the actual real life analog units, and with that scenario that essentially turns Slate Digital's versions into 100% emulation, dig me? And if one was to ask me which is the more accurate out of Yamaha VCM and Slate Digital, i would go with Slate Digital as having the edge, even slightly more authentic than Yamaha VCM!
 
You can easily try the Slate Digital plugins to decide if i'm telling the truth, you can demo them for yourself, you don't have to believe me, you can make-up your own mind, so how is there an agenda on my part if i'm not being paid to say this and if i've never met Stephen Slate and if you are free to try them for yourself???
 
And for the record, i have never heard a single software synth that successfully emulates any real world analog synth. I wish there was, but i haven't found one, i have even sent messages in the past to Arturia management telling them this, and that i won't be buying until they give us the same phat hardass authentic tone as the originals.

I tend to use my ears to decide, rather than listen to marketing hype.
 
I would ask the OP (la2a) to do the same, but since he can't hear the difference between saturation on low frequencies and high frequencies, there is not much point.  Cloth-ears.
 
I guess he is pretty naïve, or a troll.
 
Judging from his other threads, perhaps a naïve troll..

Comparing the Slate and Waves pages leads to very similar talk. Slate say "every nuance" is modeled. Waves say for instance they have "captured every distinctive nuance". Both of them admit adding sound-altering features. Both of them have big names behind them for endorsement. If you're impressed by Rupert Neve, Waves actually got a license from SSL to use their brand name. I'm not saying this to promote Waves, I'm merely showing that both companies will go to some length to convince you that their product is the real deal. It has little effect on reality, and you really, really shouldn't use their marketing blurbs to back up your opinion. You've seen what it has gained you on this forum.

Good luck using whatever plugs you want to.

Has anyone worked out what LA2A's actual point is?

It's called stirring the pot.

John T
Has anyone worked out what LA2A's actual point is?

I thought i had already made my point abundantly clear!
 

carl
It's called stirring the pot.

 
Well not really, i would be just as happy to have a conversation/debate about the authenticity or quality of different Reverb plugins or EQ plugins or the transparency of different brands of bus Limiters. Nothing wrong with that, discussing the ins&outs of different plugins, wants wrong with that? If you have an opinion i'm happy to hear it, whether you agree or disagree with me, no need to take a cynical view on the matter, i'm happy to hear anyone's thoughts about different plugins and what they think of their performance.
 

Sanderxpander
Comparing the Slate and Waves pages leads to very similar talk. Slate say "every nuance" is modeled. Waves say for instance they have "captured every distinctive nuance". Both of them admit adding sound-altering features. Both of them have big names behind them for endorsement. If you're impressed by Rupert Neve, Waves actually got a license from SSL to use their brand name. I'm not saying this to promote Waves, I'm merely showing that both companies will go to some length to convince you that their product is the real deal. It has little effect on reality, and you really, really shouldn't use their marketing blurbs to back up your opinion. You've seen what it has gained you on this forum.

Good luck using whatever plugs you want to.

Big names don't endorse something unless it's the 'real deal', SSL 'don't endorse' Waves, they simply sold them the license to use the SSL name on the Waves plugin, but SSL or any big name producer has nothing to gain and everything to lose if they fallaciously endorse something; endorsing Slate Digitals's plugins as perfect cannot be proven wrong, they can back-up their claims, no other company can prove their claims because Slate Digital can show you the evidence that such claims are false.
Go in and have a look at the studio of Jay Baumgardner (platinum selling producer who will only use analog hardware), and yet he is now using Slate Digital's VTM Tape Machine plugin for all his work, he doesn't use his hardware Tape Machine anymore, simply because the Slate Digital VTM is 100% authentic, identical to high-end analog Tape machines.
What about the mastering studio of acclaimed Mastering Engineer Howie Weinberg (considered to be one of the top 5 mastering engineers in the world alongside Alan Silverman), these guys don't play games with their audio, and they don't make false claims, yet now he is using Slate Digital's VTM Tape machine emulation because it is identical to his $10,000 hardware Struder Tape machine, that's an irreproachable endorsement in reality, not merely marketing blurb. 
 
However, have you ever heard SSL claim the Waves plugin is identical to their own hardware, the simple answer is NO! They haven't, that's because it isn't. And why do you think Waves keep having special sales for their plugins, 70% off, 80% off? They have been doing this for quite a while, and that's because they know their plugins are way overpriced and because Slate Digital has taken a large share of their customers. I can tell you that Waves is indeed way overhyped, i would go so far as to say that Waves plugins are bordering on garbage! I have a free Bus Limiter that outperforms their L2 and L3, do you believe me? The tests have been done, and many other cheap plugins can be shown to outperform the Waves equivalent. The marketing hype for Waves made them a lot of money over the years, way to much money, but when the real deal comes along the truth becomes much more apparent!
Slate Digital can show you on a computer screen all the most lauded plugins and play you the sine wave and square wave and triangle waves and other sonic signatures of these plugins and prove to you how they are way of the mark and equate to basically a mere approximation, including the Waves plugins, but Slate Digital's plugins are identical in every sonic signature to the analog performance, and yet look at the price of Slate Digitals' plugins compared to say Sonnox Oxford or Waves, don't you know a good thing when you see it, or should that be 'hear it' LOL. With Slate Digital you not only get no compromise perfect real world performance for your audio, but you also get it cheap compared to these other overpriced products which do not successfully emulate the real hardware to the same degree as Slate Digital.
 
 
 

Sorry to be late to the game, I'm now also convinced LA2A is only trolling.

mettelus
I don't own any Slate plugins, and based on posts like this, I would never buy one, even if they were a great deal. LA2A has turned me against Slate forever. Your comments make me (personally) not want to ever give Slate a chance.

+1

If you are not on Slates payroll, you should be. All of your threads seem to follow the exact same pattern of ask a question..wait for a few supplies and then go on about how Slate is superior.

I find it odd that "lala" (Teletubies reference(UK))  , sorry, "la2a" never responds to my comments.
 
Not once.
 
If he is trying to
1 - "Stir the Pot" , or
2 - Promote Slate's plugs,
 
then he is doing a terrible job.
 
He has unified the disparate members of this community in their reaction to his claims.
 
He has put several forum members off ever buying Slate products. 
 
He has also proved that he knows nothing, apart from an ability to use google.
 
He can't possibly work for Slate, as they seem like pretty smart guys.  This guy is not a good ambassador..

Is it me, or does he sound like "Godparticle"?