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  • Softube Saturation Plugin (p.9)
2014/07/06 10:48:37
SvenArne
emwhy
I use the plug-in a lot, and have used it with great results on buses, especially the drum bus. It is a "salt to taste" effect for sure, but some of the groups I've recorded call it "the magic button". If used wisely, it does add a nice character and depth to some things. I rarely have the knob past 9 o'clock a lot.

 
Yup, I use it on every bass track with the switch set to "keep low". It may sound excessively gritty and growly solo'd, but it really enhances the audibility and "upfrontness" in the mix without it becoming overpoweringly loud.
2014/07/06 11:00:00
SvenArne
And, LA2A, you simply cannot state that this or that plugin recreates a model of vintage hardware down to "every nuance". They're all different, sometimes dramatically so. Vintage consoles or rack gear have all been refurbished and recapped in different ways in order to keep working, so you'd need to test it agains the very piece that they used for modelling! 
 
Personally I've stopped caring about plugin authenticity. So long as they do something I like, then great. The Cakewalk CA-2A is one example. It does not model the non-linearity (in terms of distortion characteristics, not compression curve) of the hardware, but it just works! That's why it's sitting on every vocal track of mine in place of the new(ish) UAD-2 LA2A trio. 
2014/07/06 11:08:06
Anderton
I guarantee that if I replaced every plug-in in the last song I posted with equivalent plug-ins from Waves or Slate, the emotional impact on the listener would be identical - and that few, if any, people would be able to tell any quantitative difference whatsoever. 
 
People who expect to re-capture the "magic" of vintage gear better have the talent, experience, and ears of the people who used that gear. You can't buy that or engineer it into a plug-in. Anyone who thinks the emotional impact of their music depends on the plug-ins they use needs to study music, not plug-ins. Yes, I want the best sound quality possible. But what's vastly more important to me is to write the best music possible and plug-ins have nothing to do with that.
 
What made classic tracks magical wasn't the console, tubes, Pultec, or any gear. It was that musicians played together in a studio, often after months of honing the songs on the road, with engineers who had the experience to capture that magic and producers who had an instinct for making the right judgement calls about what was a great performance.
 
The late, great John Simonton once said it best: "Give a real musician a couple spoons, and they'll make great music. Give someone who's not a real musician a Synclavier, and they'll never make great music." To which I would add anyone who would spend hours on an internet forum promoting spoons from Lakeland Incorporated as being superior to all other spoons would likely be dismissed as having nothing of substance to contribute.
2014/07/06 11:10:57
John T
You're just saying that because you've only got plastic spoons and you're jealous.
2014/07/06 11:11:25
Anderton
SvenArne
Yup, I use it on every bass track with the switch set to "keep low". It may sound excessively gritty and growly solo'd, but it really enhances the audibility and "upfrontness" in the mix without it becoming overpoweringly loud.



+1. I saved a remix once with distortion on the bass. 
2014/07/06 11:11:26
SvenArne
Anderton
[...] a Synclavier[...]



I thought this was funny! What would be the Synclavier of 2014? Like the ultimate mythical piece of gear? 
2014/07/06 11:16:46
Anderton
John T
You're just saying that because you've only got plastic spoons and you're jealous.




My plastic spoons reproduce EVERY NUANCE of metal spoons. The handle is curved the same way, and the spoon holds exactly the same amount of liquids or food as the metal spoons. My plastic spoons are so perfect I will never feel the need again to use metal spoons. People who have picked up my plastic spoons with their eyes closed say "they feel exactly like real spoons!" Of course this is just my opinion, but I am right and you are wrong because the manufacturer of the plastic spoons says they're really, really good.
2014/07/06 11:17:23
SvenArne
Anderton
SvenArne
Yup, I use it on every bass track with the switch set to "keep low". It may sound excessively gritty and growly solo'd, but it really enhances the audibility and "upfrontness" in the mix without it becoming overpoweringly loud.



+1. I saved a remix once with distortion on the bass. 


 The QuadraFuzz?
2014/07/06 11:18:08
Anderton
SvenArne
Anderton
[...] a Synclavier[...]



I thought this was funny! What would be the Synclavier of 2014? Like the ultimate mythical piece of gear? 




Well, he said that quote at the time when the Synclavier was considered the ne plus ultra of music creation devices, and I wanted to quote him accurately. John died many years ago. I guess if he was alive today, he'd say "Pro Tools HDX System running at 192kHz."
2014/07/06 11:18:27
John T
You need to throw that stuff away and invest in some Steven Spoon spoons.
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