>a patch from cakewalk for that and it will then say 8.5.3
Yes, the last one was an Audio Snap update, still available on the Cakewalk site but you have to have 8.5.2 which is also there, before 8.5.3 will run.
>So your's is a OS related issue I would think.
More likely my mistake. If you don't reboot after significant installations, Office, Photoshop, etc, you can end up with a kind of musical chairs when you finally do reboot - wherein programs compete for the same memory space. I'd just replaced the C:\ drive and I was installing and configuring stuff for 3 days. I bet I didn't reboot enough during that time. Who wants to wait for that every ten minutes :)