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2014/07/02 15:31:45
Royal Yaksman
So many posts (I see on this forum and others) where someone posts a simple problem, or worse yet, a problem that supposedly doesn't have a work around. Not because there is no work around, but because there is an entire new way of working that is superior in both quality and time taken, etc, and that they are unwilling to embrace... Of course when people start pointing simple stuff out, the complainer posts that they are a, "professional."
 
I move to impose a sanction that any so called "pros" that can't take a hint from other pros, are hereby not widening their minds/workflow, and are henceforth reduced to the official title of "amateurs," from here on out!!!
 
Until such time as they wise the f up!!! (f, of course stands for fun, or funyuns, or anything that doesn't rhyme with fluck)
 
All in favour? Or flavour? Or savour.. ing... of the flavour, say "Beeutch please!!!"
 
Seriously, call anyone out on being a supposed, "Pro," when they don't seem able to learn a 5 second task...
 
PS: On a great side note, two years ago I would speak of Sonar and people had heard of it but hadn't looked at it. Fast forward to the now and I have those same peeps asking me for program tips!
 
Hats off, Cake! Hats off indeed!!!
2014/07/02 15:33:56
mmorgan
I'm not a professional so I can complain all I want.
 
Regards,
2014/07/02 15:42:57
drewfx1
When someone attempts to use credentials to win an argument, it's a sign that their argument itself is flawed, and/or that they don't understand what they are talking about well enough to be able to argue about it.
 
It's also blatantly fallacious reasoning.
2014/07/02 15:45:20
Royal Yaksman
mmorgan
I'm not a professional so I can complain all I want.
 
Regards,


 
For all the ams and I include myself in that, so no disrespect intended!
 
Am = Go nuts!
 
Write your opinion and get mercifully corrected by those in the know!!!
 
But if you try to throw the fact that you are a pro in peoples face, especially when the task you are whinging about is simple as f... ire... truck!!!
 
You ain't a pro!
 
Simple!
 
I don't walk into a studio and hear pros complaining that they don't know this or that... They just get on with it! And if they are doing something that isn't their normal thing? They sure as fire... truck, seem to know the basics and the work processes of what they are not entirely familiar with, because?... Because?... They're, pros!!!
 
2014/07/02 15:47:52
Royal Yaksman
drewfx1
When someone attempts to use credentials to win an argument, it's a sign that their argument itself is flawed, and/or that they don't understand what they are talking about well enough to be able to argue about it.
 
It's also blatantly fallacious reasoning.




Sing it, Drewfx1!!!
2014/07/02 16:00:02
Cactus Music
The only thing I get called pro for is  "Professional Driver" as I drive school bus and public transportation,,, So, do I dare let them know the truth? I really don't have a clue how the bus actually works, It just does.. If it doesn't, then I take it to the professional Mechanic. 
2014/07/02 16:11:08
Royal Yaksman
Cactus Music
The only thing I get called pro for is  "Professional Driver" as I drive school bus and public transportation,,, So, do I dare let them know the truth? I really don't have a clue how the bus actually works, It just does.. If it doesn't, then I take it to the professional Mechanic. 




Of course this just created a new dimension where you actually know how the bus works and of course, creates an army to wipe out all unrepentant life as we know it... I wish I had paid so much more attention to the mechanical home economics portion of my scholastic juncture in life, but alas, I guess I'll be singing a death metal version of the 1918 song, "We're good and ****ed!"
 
Thanks, Cactus Music!
2014/07/02 16:21:38
Sanderxpander
I agree in principle but not entirely. Sometimes there are subtle but profound differences in the suggested "solution" and I totally get people complaining about it. Saying they are a pro in my mind means that they have to work with it for 8 hours a day and depend on it to make a living. You simply care a lot more about little annoyances when in that position.

DAW operation is a side job for me, but as a professional keyboard player I definitely recognize this from that field.
2014/07/02 16:30:24
Beepster
People have paid me to yell, stomp around, make various unholy noises and smash completely innocent inanimate objects.
 
People have bought little slices of plastic that seem to reproduce some of that racket when inserted into bizarre machines that could only have been invented by wizards.
 
People have not paid me to manually squish noises into those little discs of plastic to play in the scary wizard boxes.
 
Perhaps someday but if there is one thing I know it's this.
 
Never trust a wizard.
2014/07/02 16:31:33
Splat
When someone attempts to use credentials to win an argument, it's a sign that their argument itself is flawed, and/or that they don't understand what they are talking about well enough to be able to argue about it.
 
I've been seeing too much of this lately over the last few weeks in these forums, which has put me into a foul mood with a couple of posters (well 2.5 posters to be precise) .
 
Nowadays "professional" seems to be a dirty word as nobody seems to know what it means any more. Programmes like "X-Factor" and "Pop Idol" are to blame in the sense that if you give it a go, you must be as good or better than professionals. The public just suck it in, the term "professional" ends up being watered down. There are real qualified professionals out there who have to compete with this lot, bands that have been playing for years in bars end up playing for free because quality no longer matters and other people will play any old crap for nothing. This is not just happening with the "music industry" (whatever that is), it's happening with professions across the board. People are now claiming they are software developers when clearly they don't even understand how a bug is defined for instance. They remind me of first year university/college students.
 
BTW my opinions are valid because I've decided to be a professional psychologist today, so all other counter arguments are invalid especially those who disprove my theories who aren't as important as me .
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