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  • What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique? (p.5)
2014/05/30 09:02:33
bitman
I stubbornly keep coming back to old CW pitch shifter for micro shift.
I need to be delivered from this dysfunctional behavior.
 
I'll try to change, really.
 
2014/05/30 09:12:07
rbowser
benjaminfrog  I'm gonna go with the percussion algorithm in Melodyne (so I can see the blobs linearly) in conjunction with the volume tool. I use this all the time now for leveling vocal tracks - way more transparent than compression alone. I used to do this by splitting vocal tracks up into a bunch of clips and changing the gain of the individual clips. Now I can just adjust the volume of the blobs in Melodyne and, what's even cooler, they are resized to represent their new level, whereas the waveforms of clips stay the same size unless/until you bounce them.


Side note:  Using the volume envelope tool in Melodyne or V-Vocal is very cool, and using gain control on individual clips is also handy, and has its place - all for sure.

I'm wondering, though, why you used to split vocal tracks into a bunch of clips to use the clip gain when a continuous volume envelope on the vocal track is so much easier and faster-?  For the segments that don't need pitch correction, you can still do a lot of accurate volume work without compression necessarily being needed.

Even if you don't have a control surface or keyboard with sliders, it works fine to work with a fader in real time with "record automation" on.  And of course envelopes can be done by hand too.

Here's a vocal track with a hand drawn envelope quite obviously bringing soft bits up and loud bits down:



And here's a good corrective volume envelope, also on a vocal track, recorded in a single pass.
 


Ears are the best guide for the results of any volume work, but if you're wanting a visualization of a track's volume, the waveform preview is a great tool - I often use that on individual tracks and buses.

--Just wanted to point out that there are methods much less time consuming and clumsy than snipping into clips and using clip gain.

Randy B.
 
 
2014/05/30 11:49:31
John T
Clip gain can be really useful given where it comes in the signal path, though. I often use clip gain to make different parts of a vocal hit any compression in a more even way. Volume envelopes will generally come post-compression. Of course, this all depends how you're using compressors.
2014/05/30 12:40:07
benjaminfrog
Exactly. I like to adjust the gain pre-compressor. If that can be done with track automation, I was unaware and that's good to know. Though, generally, I find clip automation simpler than track automation, anyway.
2014/05/30 13:22:03
Sacalait
This is cool stuff!  I'm kinda digging the ARA feature even though it's not exactly ready for prime time.  I see some power here! 
2014/05/30 13:49:33
torhan
noynekker
As trivial as this may seem, it's something I use on every midi editing session:
 
Using Keyboard command "[" and"]" (square brackets) to enter +10 or -10 increments in the Event Inspector, Note Properties data fields.
. . . it also works for entering + octave and - octave entries.
 
This has always worked in Cakewalk products, even though it is not assigned in Keyboard Shortcuts.


Similarly, if you right-click on a "+" or "-" scroll button, it'll jump by +/- 12. For example, highlight a midi clip, Transpose, then right-click on the + scroll button to transpose an octave (12 steps) up.


2014/05/30 13:55:57
Anderton
bitman
I stubbornly keep coming back to old CW pitch shifter for micro shift.
I need to be delivered from this dysfunctional behavior.
 
I'll try to change, really.



My other Melodyne-related thread about using the percussion algorithm to do small pitch shift amounts works really well, and the fidelity is much better.
2014/05/30 14:46:06
dcumpian
benjaminfrog
Exactly. I like to adjust the gain pre-compressor. If that can be done with track automation, I was unaware and that's good to know. Though, generally, I find clip automation simpler than track automation, anyway.




Record your automation, then send the track to a bus with the compressor on it.
 
Regards,
Dan
2014/05/30 16:44:05
FastBikerBoy
Most underrated for me has to be Screensets.... surprise surprise.  
 
There's not much that can't be achieved with a little "out the box" thinking. Almost like having ten versions of the same project open all at the same time with different preferences for each.
2014/05/30 21:13:46
gswitz
Anderton
I also need to give a nod to the draw tool for generating waveforms for automation. It's not just that you can create waveforms (tremolo, anyone?) but that it's so easy to vary the height and phase. The random option does instant sample-and-hold effects, which is also cool. I hardly ever see anyone mention this feature.
 



I use this one often with holding down ctrl to make cycles twice as long. :-) That way you can get a 2 measure cycle.
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