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  • What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique? (p.7)
2014/05/31 12:50:14
Beepster
Hi, Randy. Thanks. Now that I know it's out there I'll look around and see if I can find the binding. I might even have it buried somewhere in my notes. In the Dock I usually keep the Console, one or two instances of the PRV (drums and sometimes MIDI bass) and an instance (or two) of TH2 so I can adjust my current guitar tone and access the tuner (although I prefer the tuner in GR5 but if I'm not using it in a project I'm not going to add it). Also if I'm using a plugin that I intend to tweak I'll toss it in there but I'm mostly using the Prochannel stuff these days and really need to start using the FX Chain Module function for non PC effects.
 
As far as the double screen thing it's mostly a deskspace/mindspace ergonomics issue for me. I barely have enough room on my desk as it is so an extra monitor would screw that up but also mess with where I have my ref monitors/speakers. I also don't like to be twisting around all the time because even small movements can screw up my back (I'm kind of a cripple) so just being stationary and looking straight ahead works well for me. What WOULD be cool is if I had a nice big monitor mounted on the wall behind/above the one on my desk. I would probably put my Console View on it and keep the one on the desk for the Track View for editing or set up screensets to switch back and forth depending on whether I'm mixing or editing (editing = TV/PRV on the desk monitor, mixing = CV on the desk monitor).
 
But really the fact I can just slap the D key and keep my gaze in one spot is brilliant. I also think if I had a dual setup I might get momentarily confuzzled as to where to look which would waste time and throw me off course but I'm sure I'd get used to it.
 
However if I were to go out live with a laptop or with a minimal set up and had been spoiled by a dual monitor rig I probably wouldn't be as efficient because my workflow/muscle memory/gaze would be different. Silly thing to worry about but live or offsite settings are stressful enough as it is so I could see it messing me up or making me look like a spazz. lol
 
 
2014/05/31 12:54:15
Beepster
Oh and I hopped on the Sonar train with X1. Before that I was on an archaic Steinberg release so many times I'd be sitting there at 2am drunk off my arse after "mixing" all day then want to change an effect setting and have to hunt through a dozen or so effects pages to get what I wanted (or change the wrong damned thing and wonder why it wasn't doing anything or even WORSE imagining it WAS doing something when really I was destroying another track that was currently muted...)
 
Yeah... I really like the dock after that kind of crap. Heh.
2014/05/31 14:14:08
gswitz
b rock
If you output the Draw Tool automation to another MIDI track (through a virtual MIDI cable), it will be converted to a MIDI CC message.  From there, it's a snap to create a library of modulation effects (virtual LFOs).  Extensible 'Groove Clips' of vibratos, tremolo, pans, sweeps, S&H ... varying rates, depths, fade-ins/outs, combinations of waveforms.  A drag 'n' drop collection of control clips that works across any synth, effect, or most track control.

B Rock,
 
I'm dying to do this, but I need some hand holding to figure it out. Can you give more explicit instructions? I don't know how to route the midi from the first track out to the second.

Thanks!
2014/05/31 14:37:12
scook
The key is a virtual cable such as LoopBe or loopMIDI, set the first track output to the virtual cable and the input of the second track to the virtual cable.
2014/05/31 17:06:47
gswitz
I could just use a real midi cable and come out of the first track and back into the second then without having to buy anything. Right?
2014/05/31 17:25:46
scook
There is nothing to buy, both the links I provided are free. I suppose you could use a real MIDI cable but I have never tried because the virtual cables are so handy.
2014/05/31 19:10:06
Anderton
konradh
About the Sonitus multiband:  Using other tools, I have never been about to find the right frequency to cut pops or to reduce sibilance.  I know in theory, but can't ever seem to get good results.  Suggestions?



I've had to set de-essers from as low as 2.5kHz to as high as 12kHz. The "right" frequency varies all over the place.
2014/05/31 19:26:30
gswitz
konradh
About the Sonitus multiband:  Using other tools, I have never been about to find the right frequency to cut pops or to reduce sibilance.  I know in theory, but can't ever seem to get good results.  Suggestions?



Konradh,
 
A number of Dessers will allow you to listen to the sibilance they are targeting to remove. I believe the Cakewalk VX64 Vocal Strip does this as well. It has a 'Listen' Switch. When you toggle it, you get only the sibilance you will remove when you turn 'Listen' off.
 
So, turn Listen on, then sweep the frequency and depth until you hear some of the S sounds you want to trim. Then flip Listen off.
2014/06/01 01:29:02
FastBikerBoy
konradh
About the Sonitus multiband:  Using other tools, I have never been about to find the right frequency to cut pops or to reduce sibilance.  I know in theory, but can't ever seem to get good results.  Suggestions?
 



Apply a large boost to a narrow band of frequencies and sweep with that when hunting them down. Our ears find it easier to hear boosted material rather than a cut. Once you've got the frequency then you can apply the cut. HTH
 
@Beepster & Rbowser the shortcut for cycling multidock tabs is ctrl+shift+arrow left/right keys.
2014/06/01 02:20:38
mudgel
Hey Beepster
Ctrl + Shft + < > (left or right arrow) for moving through different items in Multidock pg. 1148 in Sonar Reference Guide.

When an item isn't listed in the Keyboard shortcuts tables in the manual it's always worth having a look where the view or tool is described, in this case reading the section on Multidock uncovers it.
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