Beepster
I'm actually being a jerk. I am trying to be a supportive and constructive jerk though.
 
;-)

Supportive and constructive works for me. However, you need much study in the Way of the Jerk before you can hope to attain the heights obtained by some people in internet forums and chat rooms.
 
On second thought, don't bother learning it. Forget I said anything.

lol... I'm well versed in the way of the internet jerk due to my other cyber haunts. I'm just extremely well behaved here because it's a nice place and I don't want to stink it up too much. Funny thing though is I spend more time here than anywhere else now. It's more relaxing. ;-)

Anderton
 
The other hardware problem I really hate is when a hard drive starts losing sectors...

I've never had a hard drive fail on me in any way, and some I've used every day for ten years or more.  (I don't run a server farm).  The only reason I've replaced them is that the interface changed and they were no longer compatible.  I still have them as a store for really old info that I'll surely never need.
 
I can barely remember running chkdsk every once in a while what, 25+ years ago ?  It did fix some things often enough.
 
Hard disks have got to be the most reliable things on the planet.  I think you're being a bit nostalgic there, Craig
 

Paul P

Anderton
 
The other hardware problem I really hate is when a hard drive starts losing sectors...

Hard disks have got to be the most reliable things on the planet.  I think you're being a bit nostalgic there, Craig
 

I don't mean to imply it's a common occurrence by any means, but about two years ago I did have a hard drive lose sectors after being in service for about 90 days. First one in years. The hard drive that failed prior to that had a failure of the circuit board, not the drive. Fortunately I had an identical driver, swapped the boards, saved the data, and moved on. Not that this has anything to do with AudioSnap...

bandso
I've gotta defend the op a little here as I've hit AS long render times myself recently (10 tracks of a 5 min song took over 24 hours and I finally gave up). So bad that I had to revert to previously saved copies of the songs, render the tracks to be edited/stretched, and load them into other DAWs (which took about 3 min total). Once edited, reimport back into Sonar. This is the only issue I've had with Sonar in all of the versions that have been a real time killer and aggravation. I do hope in the next update that AS is brought up to par with other programs that are currently on the market.

Thanks for the support.
 
I ran another test.  I created a new project at 185bpm (The clips temp).  Imported clip. "A" for AudioSnap. Checked "clip to project tempo".   Set track edit mode to audio transients.  Changed track to 165 bpm.  From track menu, bounce to clip.  WAIT.................... Not making any progress, this will take 10+ minutes.  At least there is an "X" to cancel out. Change project back to 185.  Bounce to clip, its chugging right along, takes about 20s.
 
If any of the people who have dumped on me would like to apologize, I would accept that and continue to respond to your posts, otherwise I don't have time for the petty bs and will put you on block list, if possible.
 
Also, just because YOU can't reproduce something does not mean it isn't a bug.  Logic.  Patience.  Acceptance.  Professionalism. Progress. Peace.
 
I suppose I'm a worst case scenario:  A new user coming from a stable, very full featured professional DAW, immediately digging into an area of functionality that is weak in Sonar.  I have been learning and playing with AudioSnap from day one as those are the features that make or break a daw for professional use, imo.   Things like tempo and signature changes in the timeline, conforming disparate audio parts to the project, etc, etc.

Riiight...
 
There is a big difference between 24 hours and having to abandon the function and waiting ten minutes resulting in the desired result. It worked. It was just processing it. That is not a bug. It is your computer being slow(ish) for some reason or another.
 
As far as demand for an apology... luuuuulz. Might as well block me my friend... but you are gonna have to do it every time you create a new account... the first of which I'm assuming will be created tomorrow.
 
Peace.

200bpm
 
If any of the people who have dumped on me would like to apologize, I would accept that and continue to respond to your posts, otherwise I don't have time for the petty bs and will put you on block list, if possible.

For what it's worth, I understand your situation.  Every time I get around to actually doing something useful with Sonar/etc, I encounter bugs that take me hours to figure out.  Z3ta is my current point of reference.
 
Part of using Sonar is learning all that doesn't work as it should and working around.  The documentation is way behind and doesn't address bugs.  I'm sure that eventually I'll know all the workarounds and the program will be useful.  In the meantime, it's painful.
 

Paul P

200bpm
 
If any of the people who have dumped on me would like to apologize, I would accept that and continue to respond to your posts, otherwise I don't have time for the petty bs and will put you on block list, if possible.

For what it's worth, I understand your situation.  Every time I get around to actually doing something useful with Sonar/etc, I encounter bugs that take me hours to figure out.  Z3ta is my current point of reference.
 
Part of using Sonar is learning all that doesn't work as it should and working around.  The documentation is way behind and doesn't address bugs.  I'm sure that eventually I'll know all the workarounds and the program will be useful.  In the meantime, it's painful.
 

Samplitude isn't sexy, and it can be obtuse (there is little documentation and the user community is all pro so none of them are using tools like Maschine),  but I've been doing this kind of audio manipulation, tempo mapping, tempo/signature changes, transient mapping and applying to clips, and general clip manipulation for 5+ years and the program has not crashed once.
 
I'm still hopeful I can get SONAR going, but the big surprise for me was that Samp's midi editor is ahead of Sonar's. Another important feature to me is the ability to loop record midi (a la Maschine), and Samp does this beautifully.  Can record and edit in real time, draw notes, etc so midi can be composed in a very organic way.
 
If I want to change project tempo, all I have to do is change the metronome and everything conforms, no funny menus, substeps or whatever.
 
Sonar has ARA integration and a better UI, but at least I can load Melodyne plug, AD2 and Z3ta+2 into Samp so this won't be a complete loss if I give up on Sonar.

Something has to be wrong with this, or hopefully a setting can be tweaked to make it work.  Samp's offline processing to timestretch the clip from 185 -> 120 took about ten seconds.

If any of the people who have dumped on me would like to apologize, I would accept that and continue to respond to your posts, otherwise I don't have time for the petty bs and will put you on block list, if possible.


Also, just because YOU can't reproduce something does not mean it isn't a bug.  Logic.  Patience.  Acceptance.  Professionalism. Progress. Peace.
 
Please add me too to the block list to both your user accounts, you will probably be hiding behind yet another user account very soon anyway Teal.
 
Again performance issues are not a bug, and yes most of us agree that that audiosnap can be painful.

And in regards to your statement I quoted above I have documented around 70 bugs with the help of the community so far and have been involved in all of the threads, so please I don't need a lesson or a lecture from you thankyou...
 
I'll check Beepsters steps later....