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2014/06/21 11:19:44
Cactus Music
Hey Mario. Yes I remember there were share ware floppies you could order via the Atari Magazine.
most were disappointing being only Piano solo (guy named Cider?)   
I also bought a few from Roland that were on floppies. They were very good but cost $25 for 4 songs and you only wanted one of the songs etc. 
These snot nose kids are spoiled rotten ya ask me... 
I still end up making most of my tracks because lately I'm adding old Country Rock stuff that no one else ever covers. Yesterday I did "Go and say Goodbye'  Buffalo Springfield. 
2014/06/21 11:24:10
Cactus Music
Please, BIAB songs are the first ones I pass over when looking for files.. they always stick out like a sore thumb with the off time drum fills.  I played around with it for a while but it actually slowed me down. I find it easier for me to play the parts from my Keyboard in real time. My earlier tracks had pretty simple drums parts, I stuck to this because every time you added a tom roll it cost you KB of precious Floppy disk space! Amazing to think of that now eh! 
 
2014/06/21 17:31:44
MarioD
Cactus Music
 These snot nose kids are spoiled rotten ya ask me... 
I still end up making most of my tracks because lately I'm adding old Country Rock stuff that no one else ever covers. Yesterday I did "Go and say Goodbye'  Buffalo Springfield. 




Spoiled rotten   They just don't know how easy they have it today!
 
I still roll my own tracks also but I have help from Band-in-a-Box. However I do replace most if not all of those MIDI tracks with my own. I also have help from Groovemonkee as they have good drum MIDI loops.  With BiaB I also have RealTracks but I very seldom use them.
 
2014/06/21 18:35:47
stratman70
And I thought I was the only one using midi files since the 80's. Guess a lot of us did, obviously. Was so thrilled when I got away from tapes (alesis and Yamaha sequencers) and got my trusty Kawai Q-80,
 
Ooops, sorry, just meant to say to OP Sonar converts the file for you to multiple tracks when you open it with sonar. no conversion needed. Just don't save as type 0. As mentioned by others, cwp is the way to go.
 
Great midi post above-
2014/06/21 18:57:26
cpkoch
Thanks for your guidance GuitarPima.  Like you say ...  "The trick is to know enough about music to do it yourself". My response is "I wish I knew enough about music".  I don't!!!   Forgive me; but, over the years I've been one who plays and sings by ear ... and playing is not something that I even think about doing unless I've had several beers or martinis under my belt. That aside, I have, for whatever the reason  failed to develop the motivation  to learn to read properly. Nevertheless I am told that my skill in improvisation, rhythm and harmony are pretty good. Whether true or not, I do manage to get by and enjoy myself.  
 
I have been working with MIDIs for  a few days now and finally am able to get them to play through Cakewalk's TTS and other Soft Synths.  
 
   
2014/06/21 19:22:23
Ricebug
@cpkoch
Just joined the forums and this is my first post.
 
Been a MIDI puke since Bars & Pipes Pro, on the Amiga. Still use it through an emulator because it does some things better, though I'm also comfortable with Sonar's MIDI editing capabilities.
 
If you want some help, feedback, guidance, you can send me a .MID file and I'll have a peek at what you're doing. I don't see an email link here, so...
 
2014/06/21 19:42:10
cpkoch
Thank you "Cactus Music".  As Mike suggested ... EXCELLENT post!!!  I really appreciate the time you spent to create your (I'm guessing you are "Johnny" ... good guess???) guide.  I'm one of those who learned by discovery. Your guidance will be put to good use as I follow it during the process  I've already learned that a MIDI file may be opened directly making it easier to work. Is that why it is important to Open and not Import or is there other reasons to do that?  
 
Hopefully I will create something that is useful for my attempt at  "Balladeering" Don't Be Cruelclick to acccess midi I'll post it with hopes that I'll get more valuable suggestions.  All I can say is thanks to all of you who have  offered help.  
 
2014/06/21 20:02:43
cpkoch
Ricebug
 
If you want some help, feedback, guidance, you can send me a .MID file and I'll have a peek at what you're doing. I don't see an email link here, so...
 


Thanks so much for the offer.  As I have indicated elsewhere in  this thread, I am trying to create a ballad version of Elvis Presley's Don't Be Cruel   ...  here's the link to the midi http://www.syzygy-llc.com/Songs/Elvis%20Presley%20-%20Don't%20Be%20Cruel.mid  By way of background I have undertaken a project (just for the heck of it  to see where is goes)  to sing, record, produce and post on my YouTube Channel ... http://www.YouTube.com/user/cpkoch ... the 100 top hits from the 50's and the top 100 hits from the 60's.  Don't Be Cruel, released in 1956, ranks sixth,  I think, for the decade of the 50's.  I like the song but don't love it. So I thought I'd try to do it in a different style, more of a ballad that a rock style, just to see how it goes over with the  few (so far) who follow my channel.  If you have any ideas I am all ears and would welcome them.  
 
Thanks again and welcome to the forum.  I too am relatively new to it and find it to be the best I've ever had the pleasure of "tuning-in" to!     
2014/06/21 20:09:16
Cactus Music
Thanks, Don't be cruel is a track I did myself from around 1987. As I said I'm just going through all those files as I have time and redoing them all. Huge improvements. 
I now add real Bass and to most I'm now adding some Piano and keyboard stuff as that's one instrument my playing has steadily improved on over time. Some I re do the whole drum track as I also now have the Yamaha digital kit. I'm in MIDI hog heaven myself and I wish there were more hours in a day to enjoy my hobbie. Summer is here and  I don't come inside much anymore...Time for a nice homemade IPA now see ya.. 
 
Here's a page from my web site if your interested in how I do my solo act. 
 
http://www.cactusmusic.ca/johns_rig.htm
 
 
2014/06/21 20:10:00
cpkoch
Ricebug
 on the Amiga. 
 


By the way, our first computer was a Commodore 64  (Wasn't that in the same family with Amiga?) that my wife bought for the kids so that they could play "Pong".  I got my hands on it! Got hooked and on the road to becoming literate. At some point  I was the "go to" guy when it came to how to do things with software.  
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