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2014/06/11 19:13:48
fb.seeker
Maybe you already seen/heard these have this, but demo's on Craig's tribute to MiniMoog.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=craig+anderton+mini+moog+tribute
 
Good luck!
2014/06/12 14:15:27
Beepster
scook
The problem is exclusively with the 64bit version of Pentagon, the 32bit version does not have the problem. Triangle II is a 32bit VST and does not have the simulator module.




So I guess technically if I loaded the 32bit version via BB on my 64bit install it might avoid the problem? I'm assuming that the problematic simulators aren't worth the bother but still... I like to check things out before dismissing them and from what I can tell they are like some kind of IR type situation that would not be easily reproduced and perhaps the patches that employ them are something interesting.
 
Obviously that's just silly OCD stuff and likely not worth the screw around but if this is possible I could use this method to browse all the patches in 32bit mode (via bitbridge) without risking ear/equipment damage AND hear what those patches/simulators do and write down a) which patches include the Valley Sim stuff so I can turn down my headphones, switch to 64bit and change those presets to not include that sim as you suggested and b) see if they are worth using in the future (in which case I'd be sure to load Pentagon in 32 bit mode for the project).
 
Again... that's silly but I do appreciate the heads up. I hate getting ear blasts while browsing patches. It happened with dim pro right after I installed X1 and it was horrendous. Gotta start tossing the Concrete Limiter in the master and engaging it before I do ANY browsing. Cheers.
 
Leadfoot
Hey Beepster, have you checked out PSYN II yet? You'll find some nice fat moogy stuff in there too.



Just gathering information these past couple days (I've had meatworld stuff interfering with my DAW time) but I watched a couple vids this morning about PSYNII (there aren't many out there like the others) but I will definitely look for those patches. Thanks. :-)
2014/06/12 14:39:55
scook
Beepster
 
So I guess technically if I loaded the 32bit version via BB on my 64bit install it might avoid the problem?

Pentagon is a 32bit DXi, it would require a DXi-to-VST wrapper to get the synth to load via BitBridge.
 
PSYNII is not bad. Still Rapture and Z3TA+2 would be my first choices. A good resource for all of the synths bundled with SONAR is Simon Cann's book Cakewalk Synthesizers
2014/06/12 15:06:53
Beepster
Ok, cool. I won't bother with that wacky idea then so that saves some time and brain juice. I'll just toss a heavy limiter on and browse then change/delete as needed.
 
I'll also keep the Anderton Moog patches in mind. If I can get a good emu for cheap into the synths I already intend to learn that seems like it'd be worth it. Cripes... after this thread I've got what... 7-8 synths to dig into? lol
 
I'll freaking do it too. ;-p
2014/06/12 16:15:48
dubdisciple
Simon Caan's book is excellent and he is very accesible for questions. The Muzuem patches are great too.
2014/06/12 16:21:33
Sanderxpander
Something to have fun with AND learn something! ;)
http://littlebits.cc/kits/synth-kit
2014/06/13 16:00:57
Glyn Barnes
Leadfoot
Have you tooled around with Pentagon?


+1 for Pentagon, it probably the best synth in Sonar for traditional analog sounds. The "valley issue" only affects a very small portion of patches and is easily fixed by editing and saving those patches.  Yiu can always put a limiter on it for safety sake, but for me the problem seemed to be the sound cutting out, not the loud outburst of noise reported by some.
 
The free MiniMouge VA seems to work fine using bitbridge and does the business. Its good quality freeware IMHO.
2014/06/13 23:17:06
Anderton
ShellstaX
Also Craig Anderton's Minimoog Tribute: Rapture Expansion Pack from the Cakewalk Store.
Down from $49 to $9.95 at present.



FWIW the intention was to include a selection of patches that were the types of sound people created on the Minimoog at the time, but also, to generate income for the Bob Moog Foundation. (The waveforms were sampled from a restored Minimoog that Bob signed when he was staying over at my place, so they weren't just any old sawtooth waves .) 
 
I think it really says something about him that the tones created with his instruments have endured almost a half-century and still set the gold standard for synthesized sound...and that the architecture he developed remains the default standard synth routing. Bob was a giant, and the degree to which he shaped music and this industry cannot be underestimated.
 
I would encourage people who enjoy the sounds for which he's responsible to contribute something (anything) to the Bob Moog Foundation. Had it not been for the foundation, his amazing archives would have been lost. They are being restored and the foundation is involved with other worthwhile projects...please check out the link.
 
We now return to our regularly scheduled programming.
2014/06/13 23:36:39
myconsumerclub
So moog huh? I recommend gforce minimonsta from JRR and Monark both but  if money is an issue other than the free ones and memory moon mentioned so far there is little one lite free with the workzone issue of beat magazine which also has warmverb from tone 2 and an oberheim model from wok called sam e. I would also mention that Poly KB II is a really cool sounding model of an old analog synth that sounded very moogy and the player for it at JRR (use coupon code "group") is less than $10 normally its like $40. I paid $8.74 after the coupon code, also for $40 you can snag OPX player from sonic projects. 
2014/06/13 23:45:03
scook
Another nice Oberheim-ish plug-in http://obxd.wordpress.com/ 64bit, hundreds of presets and free.
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