My only real irritant at this time is that the bakers have not responded to a problem I am experiencing with Arturia VST3 plug ins, yes I have raised a support request, and the fact that I seem to be stuck between a :-
 
"Its their problem not ours, no they are wrong it their problem not ours."
 
Argument.
 
Please can it just be fixed so I can make some music.

From my perception the buck stops with Arturia. It's them who should be chasing it up with Cakewalk regardless of who is at fault as it's their plugins that do not work. Going through them should be the main communication channel for the customer. Cheers...

Hi, Keni. Glad you are at least mostly in a better place with the software now.
 
I know perhaps you don't want to hear another of my ever optimistic views that likely don't take your specific workflow into consideration but...
 
I keep seeing you refer to Zoom issues which for the most part seems to be the major complaint at this point now that you've made a reasonable peace with Take Lanes. Could you describe how you are zooming and/or how you expect zoom to work?
 
I am unsure whether this is a height or timeline zoom issue but I am assuming you are heavily using keybindings for zooming either way.
 
If it's timeline zooming though, (and I briefly mentioned this in one of your previous threads but didn't go into detail because there were other problems bothering you more AFAICT) I really think adding the click/drag timeline zooming feature into your workflow. I know in many ways a keyboard oriented workflow is optimal (and I myself try to use as many shortcuts for general functions as possible) but to me just reaching up to the time ruler and dragging up/down to zoom and left/right to navigate (at the same time no less) was a MAJOR boon to how I work. It is a million times easier and was one of the big selling points for X2 for me. I have never experienced any kind of bugs or quirks with it either even when I was pulling my hair out over other problems in X2. Awesome feature and only requires that you break one workflow habit (which admittedly can be difficult but in this case is a huge time save).
 
If however this is a vertical zoom issue I would like to explore it myself. I have been having an issue with jumping screens so perhaps that is the problem. If so I have some possible insights that might help you at least anticipate the behavior so you can avoid them or mitigate them. If it is the same issue I also posted a thread about them recently that drew the attention of at least one baker who confirmed it as did other users. I don't expect another patch for X3 at this point but X4 (or whatever they decide to name it) is right around the corner and honestly I think under the new management and the renewed enthusiasm we've seen from the Bakers it should be a good release.
 
Hope you've been well. Cheers.

re 3rd party compatibility:
 
Well, as much as Cake should be making the program as hospitable as possible for all the various plugin standards and possible aberrations AND take into account that they should be even MORE vigilant in this regard because they know that many of these companies may not be testing compatibility with Sonar because it doesn't hold as large a consumer base as other DAWs might the reverse is true as well...
 
There are only a handful of commonly used DAWs and while Sonar may not be in the top 3 or 5 or whatever the numbers are (please don't take that as me knowing anything about market share stuff because I don't but Sonar is not the most used DAW despite how cool it is and no one can deny that) it IS still used by MANY people and the companies writing plugins and doodads should be testing their wares with Sonar much more than Cakewalk should be testing their DAW with every known plugin on the market.
 
Basically how many DAWs are out there that are commonly used? 10? How many third party plugin manufacturers are there? 1000's? More?
 
Doesn't it make more sense for those 1000 companies to take the time to test their products with the top 10 DAWs than it does for the top ten DAW manufacturers to test every plugin on the market?
 
This is (IMO) one of the few benefits of shelling out for PT but in a half arsed, lazy way. They don't allow you to just use whatever you want. You pay a premium for the DAW and then another premium for Avid approved plugs because they've been tested and confirmed compatible... and even then you may run into problems.
 
So yeah... Cake should be more on top of compatibility and flexibility in regards to third party stuff because they KNOW that these other companies aren't really gonna go out of their way to test their product with Sonar because they are playing the odds that most of their customers don't use it... BUT those third party vendors are being lazy by doing so.
 
I think this is why we have seen Cake just say "F*ck it!" and load the program with almost any kind of tool one might need in hopes of avoiding the whole nonsense altogether and I don't blame them.
 
What will hopefully happen now that the Gibson name is slathered across the program and the X series has matured Sonar will end up taking a larger portion of the market and those third parties will realize that yes... they do indeed need to start including Sonar in their tests.
 
But that's just my interpretation of the issue and... well I'm relatively new to all this so whatever.
 
I'm just happy all my stuff is working at this point.
 

I'm not happy at the moment. But that may change after I do a clean install of my OS and then X3. Right now, X2 is a much better performer on my computer. I know I'm in the minority, most people say X3 runs leaner than X2. Not the case here. 

musicroom
I'm not happy at the moment. But that may change after I do a clean install of my OS and then X3. Right now, X2 is a much better performer on my computer. I know I'm in the minority, most people say X3 runs leaner than X2. Not the case here. 

That is indeed odd and unfortunate. Anything in particular going wrong or is it a syndrome type situation? Cheers.

Beep, I think this problem stems from me loading Win 8.1 over top of Vista 64. This pc is still smooth and fast despite that fact.
 
When I first installed X3 months back, the installation stalled. After getting a tip on this forum, I downloaded the latest c++ redistributable from Microsoft and X3 loaded fine. Like I said, X2 runs great on this machine along with soundforge11, reaper4 and well, everything else. X3e on my machine is usable, but sluggish with only a few audio tracks. Once it starts getting sluggish, the graphics on the mixing console also hang and jump.
 
A temp solution has been to narrow the tracks in console view and not show the meters; then it works pretty well. But I like to see my meters when I mix. :)  Given that X3 has such a good reputation, and my machine is in great shape hardware-wise; I think the logical solution is to wipe the drive clean of the Vista bits and start with a fresh Win 8.1 install...  

Oh, yeah. That sounds like a plan.
 
Gawd I hate Vista. lol
 
You're really gonna like X3 once you get it running properly. It's like X2 graduated university, took some martial arts classes and learned the art of lovemaking from a Kama Sutra master.
 
Still won't make me a damned sammich though. I've filed a problem report about that though so fingers crossed.

musicroom
Beep, I think this problem stems from me loading Win 8.1 over top of Vista 64. This pc is still smooth and fast despite that fact.
 
When I first installed X3 months back, the installation stalled. After getting a tip on this forum, I downloaded the latest c++ redistributable from Microsoft and X3 loaded fine. Like I said, X2 runs great on this machine along with soundforge11, reaper4 and well, everything else. X3e on my machine is usable, but sluggish with only a few audio tracks. Once it starts getting sluggish, the graphics on the mixing console also hang and jump.
 
A temp solution has been to narrow the tracks in console view and not show the meters; then it works pretty well. But I like to see my meters when I mix. :)  Given that X3 has such a good reputation, and my machine is in great shape hardware-wise; I think the logical solution is to wipe the drive clean of the Vista bits and start with a fresh Win 8.1 install...  

Have you tried a different graphics card?
Many seemingly impossible to track down "bugs" have been cured this way

Nothing like a clean install. Updates never do the job fully you just got to see the errors on the windows event viewer afterwards. Don't forget to run windows update several times inc optional updates before you install any applications (straight after windows install). Cheers.