• SONAR
  • Sonar 6 to X3 Drum Track Conversion
2014/06/17 23:14:53
diggitydogg
I have a midi drum track created in Sonar 6 that I would like to be able to open/use in Sonar X3.
 
How do I set this up?
 
Your help is very appreciated.
2014/06/17 23:29:27
scook
Unless there is something unusual about it, the project or MIDI file should open in X3. Connecting MIDI tracks to a synth is the same in X3 as it was in SONAR 6. Any idea what drum synth was used in SONAR 6 and which one is going to be used in X3?
2014/06/18 00:04:23
Cactus Music
MIDI tracks can be opened in any DAW or sequencer made since the beginning of MIDI in 1980's. 
 
Roland and Cakewalk have always used the same note assignments. Yamaha is a little different. So it's a simple matter of opening the CWP, CWB or MID file in X3. Then assign it's output to TTS-1 or Session Drummer. If you have bought X3 Producer you will have Addictive drums. 
The Midi track should be by default, channel 10 which will play TTS-1 GM drums. 
Session Drummer and Addictive drums need for you to load a drum kit of which there are many choices from Electronic to Jazz kits before you'll hear sound. They are way better than TTS-1 because they play real samples of real drums. ( I still kinda like TTS-1 kick :? ) 
2014/06/18 00:30:28
diggitydogg
Wow! And thanks for such a timely response.
 
I'm afraid both of you are talking past me as I am a novice user.
 
When I try to load the song created in Sonar 6 the screen pop-up says:
 
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What?
2014/06/18 00:35:15
diggitydogg
I guess you cannot post an image so I will post just the message within the pop-up
 
The following plug-ins are referred to by this project, but could not be found. Session Drummer 2
 
Now what?
 
Please detain all moves in a procedure, do not assume I know anything! Lol
2014/06/18 01:09:35
Cactus Music
Well this is because your Sonar 6 used session drummer 2, Sonar is looking for it and cannot find it.  Load the song in safe mode, and insert session drummer 3 or ?? instead.
 
If you still have Sonar 6 you could install it and Sonar x3 will find Session drummer 2. But there's no point in this. The version was 32 bit. You see your new system is all 64 bit now and it's better to use the newer VST's. which come as 64 bit now. Don't worry, it will work, We all went through this a few years ago..your just a little late to the game..:) 
2014/06/18 01:33:15
diggitydogg
Ok...thanks... I'll give it a shot and let you know.
2014/06/19 00:26:49
diggitydogg
Ok...I'm sorry to keep bothering you guys but how do I load a song in "Safe Mode"?
2014/06/19 00:31:14
scook
Hold the SHIFT key while opening the project.
2014/06/19 00:50:21
diggitydogg
Update: (thanks) Now that I have it open in "Safe Mode" and canceled "Session Drummer 2", how do I load "Session Drummer 3" in its' place for the already written midi drum track?
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