• SONAR
  • What would you pay for? (p.2)
2018/02/25 18:24:45
Cactus Music
What I would pay for is a DAW that was optimized for live performance. 
 
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2018/02/25 18:38:43
tobiaslindahl
A grown up staff/notation functionality would complete Sonar to me. It is about the only thing lacking imo. I use Finale when I want to write scores and edit things for print, or when just writing music because I sometimes write music that way out of habit instead of writing with pen and paper. It is way to cumbersome to do that today in Sonar and in all honesty doesn't really work. 
 
Someone offered us Cakewalk owners to buy a notation program on the cheap a while back after the annoncement, and he even talked about there having been talks about integrating that program into Sonar? Something like that I would pay for to have it all in one program rather than switch between several as I do today. 
 
2018/02/25 18:50:41
fireberd
Although I'm one of those that bought Studio One 3 Pro, Platinum does everything I need as I only use it like a multi-track tape recorder.  To avoid obsolescence of Platinum (current version) I would consider a "nominal" fee for new  versions (not a cloud type version) that would be guaranteed to be Windows futureproof.
 
I use the Pro Channel with my "tape recorder".
 
 
 
 
2018/02/25 19:04:49
panup
20 €: option to hide Track Control Manager because I keep everything visible always. It's just a waste of screen estate and it could be replaced with crossfades and ripple edit buttons.
2018/02/25 19:12:09
nebukenazar
i have bought lite time update of sonar platinum. If they want my more money;
 
1-have to keep core funtions of sonar platinum which i use to
2-must add some newly vstis and vst
3-much more copatibility for other musical softwares
4-must guarante to frequent updates
 
So i may reserve 150$ for new Daw (it may be much more expensive but i am waiting some dumping for exiting user)
2018/02/25 19:14:43
AT
Matrix.  And better touch, tho that will take time to figure out what works and doesn't.
2018/02/25 19:35:56
sharke
I think they need to get a dialog going with Sonar users and compile a dossier of show stopping bugs, design flaws, annoyances and other workflow killers and frustrations. All the things that make people yell "goddammit" at the screen 100x during every session. Many of these issues are minor but there are so many of them and the accumulative effect can be to make users feel like they're fighting against the program instead of working with it. 
 
There is a ton of this "minor" stuff, like for instance: many times during a session I will accidentally click on the "show automation lanes" button on a track, and despite the fact that I have no intention of automating the volume, Sonar will give me an automation envelope hardwired to the fader simply by virtue of my having clicked that button. I have to manually delete it. It's a "show automation lanes" button, not a "create a volume envelope" button. Big "tch" moment every time I do it. If there are no active automation lanes on the track, just give me a blank lane and I'll choose a parameter for it if I want! I wonder how many times a Sonar beginner has done that, closed the lane and then wondered why the volume fader keeps snapping back to unity every time they try to move it. Stuff like that is horrible design from a user experience standpoint. 
 
Loads of stuff needs polishing up, like the way in which you select parameters for an automation lane. It's all very well and good when you want to automate the pan pot or something which is right there at the top of the menu, but let's say you want to automate an EQ band on an EQ with a dozen possible bands. You end up having to scroll through an endless list of parameters in a menu in which you can't even use your scroll wheel. It's horrible. 
 
Make the mapping of controllers to mix controls and VST controls easier and more intuitive. It frustrates new users and even long time users. Update old and awful parts of the program, like the horribly counter-intuitive and frustrating keyboard shortcut manager. When you compare it to shortcut managers in other DAW's it's an abomination. Update the browser. Make the export dialog less confusing and more in line with how people would expect it to work - this has always been a huge source of confusion among users judging by forum posts ("I exported a track and it sounds nothing like the original" etc). 
 
Have automation nodes show the PROPER value of what you're automating when moving them or hovering over them. When I'm automating a filter cutoff and the node shows "65%" instead of the value in Hz, that's super annoying and so unhelpful. 
 
These are just a drop in the ocean of similar little annoyances and sloppy design which together contribute to the feeling of Sonar being "unpolished." They no doubt drive a lot of people away. Fixing this stuff along with some of the long standing, stupid bugs which should have been fixed years ago should be the #1 priority, and I'm sure BandLab and the new team will realize this. 
2018/02/25 20:00:22
Cactus Music
How about I'll start  thread just for this topic. Good idea John, even though this one is sort of the same the title is not clear. 
2018/02/25 20:26:26
LOSTinSWIRL
To be able to change the name of a project from the skyline interface.  As of so many of you like me really don't know what to call your song until you really get into the project. Been using Studio One 3.5 Pro and you can do it with ease in there.  This would be a really nice feature.
2018/02/25 21:06:35
marled
sharke
Make the export dialog less confusing and more in line with how people would expect it to work - this has always been a huge source of confusion among users judging by forum posts ("I exported a track and it sounds nothing like the original" etc).


I don't agree with this! IMHO Sonar has the best export dialog I have seen in the DAW liga (the 10 I tested). It is very well structured and allows you to disable several things and it is much easier than in other DAWs to select the valid range. For me it is on the top list of my DAW requirements (a Sonar-like export dialog).
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