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  • Pro Channel authenticity (p.8)
2014/06/14 05:23:35
Sanderxpander
Can someone ban this guy now and close the thread?
2014/06/14 06:49:03
John T
Imagine being stuck in an elevator with LA2A.
2014/06/14 07:12:12
Leadfoot
Wow...That was the longest, most obnoxious post I have ever seen on this forum. Don't respond Craig! He's not worth the time. It's obvious that he enjoys the conflict, and no answer or response will satisfy him. LA2A- If you want answers, just buy the stuff and see for yourself.
2014/06/14 07:39:18
The Maillard Reaction
LA2A
I like the sound of this, and the option of three different emulations, nice! Plus the Tape and EQ and compression emulations, gorgeous!
But i was wondering what other Sonar users think about the pro-channel in regard to its 'sound', not its actual displayed characteristics as achieved by Cakewalk/Gibson, but its 'authenticity', does it achieve accuracy in the emulations of each particular analog desk that it aims to emulate.
I have noticed that Slate-Digital pulled no punches, and the consensus is that Slate-Digital nailed-it, nigh on impossible to tell the difference between their plugins and the real-world counterparts, warts and all; so, i was wondering if i would need to get some of Slate-Digital's plugins or do users here think that the pro-channel has actually achieved absolute authenticity, is it up to Slate-Digital and UAD standards or just merely in the ballpark? 
 
Can anyone point me to any readily available info as to how Cakewalk/Gibson went-about emulating these desks and the extent they went to in order to achieve this?




 
Hi LA2A,
 Welcome to the SONAR forum, its renowned hospitility, and its Ad hominem welcome wagon.
 
  I have asked similar questions in the past and have found it was difficult to learn anything more than you have in this thread.
 
 I don't have an answer for you about how PC2A sounds compared to a real LA2A and I don't think there is much readily available info describing how Cakewalk went about emulating the LA2A, but if you really want to know you may try and contact Robert Currie at http://www.sononics.com. He was the lead engineer on the project back when he worked for Cakewalk.
 
 Good luck.
 
 best regards,
mike
 
 
2014/06/14 07:40:22
jps
LA2A , you need to take a chill pill .  
2014/06/14 08:30:45
Splat
Nice hot sunny day here in London....
2014/06/14 08:56:11
tlw
Keeps clouding over then clearing here in the West Midlands. Looks a bit like it might thunder later.....
2014/06/14 09:29:18
tlw
Oh, and LA2A, if you're going to quote me, please don't list me as one of your supporters. I'm saying nothing Craig hasn't said.

Mods, time to put LA2A in the troll bin I think.
2014/06/14 10:04:55
John T
LA2A's got Mike in his corner, I see. Speaks volumes about them both.
2014/06/14 10:04:57
Razorwit
Well, running the risk of adding fuel to a fire, I happened to be sitting in front of an SSL this morning and so threw together a quick comparison. For your A/B'ing pleasure:
 
Console comparison (it's about 60 MB)
 
This is three mixdowns of a project I'm working on this morning. One is ITB no console, one is ITB with Cakes console emulator in SSL mode on 16 bus channels, the last is those same 16 busses out through the SSL (signal chain is RME MADI card -> Antelope converter -> SSL -> back to converters to record). My SSL isn't large format, it's just the one in the pic below with the comp and EQ disengaged...the coffee cup is in the pic because it's early and should have no impact on the sound 
 

 
I am mixing through the SSL so that may have some impact. Oh, and I don't have Slate VCC so I can't include that as a comparison point...I would have downloaded a demo but I'm doing actual work this morning and...well...honestly, don't care that much 
 
Dean
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