• SONAR
  • Video question (p.3)
2014/06/13 14:59:26
rbowser
OH _ It's just now sinking in - You didn't get a video editing program, you laid out some $ for QuickTime Pro, which gives you a few more functions to the free QuickTime player.  That's not what you need for what you're talking about - sorry.
 
rbowser
2014/06/13 15:04:16
Sanderxpander
Actually it is exactly what I need, although it's a little clunky. All I need is to change out the audio and save it to a slightly more manageable format (i.e. not ".mov" and not 4GB for 3 minutes). I had thought I could do this with Sonar but it won't read the .mov file and generally the export quality doesn't seem very good.
 
I can work this way, I'm just slightly disappointed in Sonar. I know its video functions are basic but I don't actually need to edit the video.
2014/06/13 15:08:07
rbowser
Sanderxpander
Actually it is exactly what I need, although it's a little clunky. All I need is to change out the audio and save it to a slightly more manageable format (i.e. not ".mov" and not 4GB for 3 minutes). I had thought I could do this with Sonar but it won't read the .mov file and generally the export quality doesn't seem very good.
 
I can work this way, I'm just slightly disappointed in Sonar. I know its video functions are basic but I don't actually need to edit the video.


Well good, if you're getting done what you need to get done, then great. 
 
This whole thing of exporting a video from Sonar - like I said earlier, that's a new one on me.  Only video programs can edit video, there isn't an audio related program like Sonar that can let you slice up and edit video - so, no need to be disappointed on that count. 
 
The way most people are using Sonar in connection with video is to import a working copy of a vid for purposes of scoring - then the actual work of editing video and marrying it to a soundtrack is done in a program meant for that kind of work.  Sonar doesn't touch the actual video footage.
 
Best wishes on your project.
 
RB
2014/06/13 15:22:47
dubdisciple
Sanderxpander
rbowser
Sanderxpander
Instructions on how to replace it, yes. You can actually move it or anything. There is just "the audio track" without any visual timeline representation.

That's right, Sanderx - I think that kind of editing is standard with any video editor.  You need to be able to move all sorts of clips around wherever you want - audio, stills, video, on as many layers as you want- You're going to have fun, I don't think there's any doubt!  I love working in my vid program.
 
RB


Sorry, I meant to say you CAN'T actually move it. There is just "the audio track" with no visual timeline representation at all. Videos seem to be only sequential too. So very basic. Still, it works.
 
For those using Vegas, do you mean "Movie Studio" or something? Cause on their website;
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegassoftware
The cheapest product with "Vegas" in the name is 400 bucks.


That is inaccurate. Even the most base versions give you timeline. Jusyvdownload theb demo and thay will clear up that mosconception
2014/06/13 16:00:38
Sanderxpander
I am working with Quicktime Pro now, Dub, not Vegas. RBowser was confused there.
 
And RBowser, again, I DON'T NEED TO SLICE AND EDIT VIDEO. I just need to modify the audio and export the video. This is not working very well. I believe many pro audio suites do offer this and in fact, so does Sonar. It just doesn't do it very well. Hence my disappointment.
2014/06/13 16:04:59
rbowser
SanderxpanderAnd RBowser, again, I DON'T NEED TO SLICE AND EDIT VIDEO. I just need to modify the audio and export the video. This is not working very well. I believe many pro audio suites do offer this and in fact, so does Sonar. It just doesn't do it very well. Hence my disappointment.



lol--I KNOW YOU DON'T NEED TO SLICE AND EDIT VIDEO, Sanderx - (mirroring your caps) - that's why I said it's great you found something to do what you need, which is just to swap out the audio.  But what I was also saying is that audio programs, DAW software, NEVER have the ability to slice and dice/edit video.  That's why there's no need to be disappointed in Sonar.  It does exactly what all other DAW programs do - gives the user a way to score to video.  To edit video, one needs an actual video editing program.--
 
I'm wishing you the best - now quit yelling at me!  lol.
 
Randy B.
2014/06/13 16:29:24
dubdisciple
Sander. Thanks for the explanation. Codec vs container causes lots of confusion. All MOV files are not the same. The safest option is to use a converter to change files to format the program likes. Sonar reads most common codecs well now compared to previous versions. I suspect some Mac-centric codecs like ProRes may fail since most windows programs struggle with it.
2014/06/13 16:42:09
Sanderxpander
Thank you, yes that is something I know but don't always actively think of.
I do have a video converter (Roxio Easy Video Copy & Convert) but it has terrible quality no matter what settings I use. Quicktime Pro only seems to take a few formats but so far conversion quality has been good. Mpeg-4 is fine for my uses, and it reads the MOV file that Sonar won't.
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