See the videos in my signature. The other weekend, I found it necessary to stack the Midi Filter Plugins to get what I needed.

vintagevibe...A lot of assumption here.  Since I want to control a hardware synth from it's own mixer without Sonar changing its settings...

Yes, you're right, vintagevibe, I wasn't thinking of an external hardware synth since there was no mention of one in your brief original post. But I'm sure you can see I was only wanting to be helpful.  

10 years ago when I was still using hardware synths I wanted control over them using their own interfaces - Cakewalk was just for recording MIDI tracks, the way I'd used a hardware sequencer before it.  Now with more info about your set up, I get what you mean!

So in the case of using hardware and wanting to use its faders, disabling Sonar's will get you the work flow you're after, since you don't want to have control centrally located on your computer - WITH the important caveat I address again in this reply:

TomHelvey...Sylenth reads the setting for it's master volume so even if you adjust the volume in Sylenth, the master level always jumps when you restart playback...

That's right, Tom, as I explained in post #7 - By default, Sonar's MIDI faders take precedence, and control the faders in synths with volume sliders.  That's why, for my money, it's easier to set volumes in Sonar rather than jumping in to the synth's GUI every time I want to try a new level.

Right click over the Sonar fader does give you that "Disable" option, and that works - AS LONG as you don't touch the fader again during the course of your project.  That will re-engage the fader and it will take control again, and you may end up wondering "What the..."!"

Randy
 

rbowser

TomHelvey...Sylenth reads the setting for it's master volume so even if you adjust the volume in Sylenth, the master level always jumps when you restart playback...

That's right, Tom, as I explained in post #7 - By default, Sonar's MIDI faders take precedence, and control the faders in synths with volume sliders.  That's why, for my money, it's easier to set volumes in Sonar rather than jumping in to the synth's GUI every time I want to try a new level.

Right click over the Sonar fader does give you that "Disable" option, and that works - AS LONG as you don't touch the fader again during the course of your project.  That will re-engage the fader and it will take control again, and you may end up wondering "What the..."!"

 
If you have no need to create volume automation and no need to use the blue volume slider but are afraid of touching it, I suggest you (not particularly you, Randy) hide the slider using the Track Control Manager, which allows you to save settings as presets that can be easily selected from the Track Control drop-down.

rbowser

vintagevibe...A lot of assumption here.  Since I want to control a hardware synth from it's own mixer without Sonar changing its settings...

Yes, you're right, vintagevibe, I wasn't thinking of an external hardware synth since there was no mention of one in your brief original post. But I'm sure you can see I was only wanting to be helpful.  

10 years ago when I was still using hardware synths I wanted control over them using their own interfaces - Cakewalk was just for recording MIDI tracks, the way I'd used a hardware sequencer before it.  Now with more info about your set up, I get what you mean!

So in the case of using hardware and wanting to use its faders, disabling Sonar's will get you the work flow you're after, since you don't want to have control centrally located on your computer - WITH the important caveat I address again in this reply:

TomHelvey...Sylenth reads the setting for it's master volume so even if you adjust the volume in Sylenth, the master level always jumps when you restart playback...

That's right, Tom, as I explained in post #7 - By default, Sonar's MIDI faders take precedence, and control the faders in synths with volume sliders.  That's why, for my money, it's easier to set volumes in Sonar rather than jumping in to the synth's GUI every time I want to try a new level.

Right click over the Sonar fader does give you that "Disable" option, and that works - AS LONG as you don't touch the fader again during the course of your project.  That will re-engage the fader and it will take control again, and you may end up wondering "What the..."!"

Randy
 

 
Hi Randy,
 
I did leave a lot out.  I've got all the software stuff..about 500GB of libraries etc.. but I just got a new Yamaha MOXF and I'm really enjoying the immediacy and stability of hardware.  I'm going to start composing on the keyboard and then adding softsynths etc.. when I dump everything on my computer for the final mix and master.  It's really freeing up my creativity to work this way after using software only for years.  I'm actually blown away at how many of the keyboard sounds will be keepers.
 
I can actually do a lot of the mixing of the MOFX from the computer but here is what I'm doing:  Instead of spending a lot of time editing drum kits on the Yamaha I have 6 tracks on the MOXF to keep my favorite drum an percussion sounds on.  One each for toms, snare, kicks percussion etc...  I have all my drum data in one drum track going to 6 channels on the keyboard via a drum map.   I control the volume of each keyboard track with Sonar tracks for mixing the drums.  Sooo.. if the track with the actual drum data on it sends out to all those channels it overrides the mixing channels.  Therefore I need to kill the drum data track.  Does that make any sense at all?  ;>)

vintagevibe...if the track with the actual drum data on it sends out to all those channels it overrides the mixing channels.  Therefore I need to kill the drum data track.  Does that make any sense at all?  ;>)

Very cool, vintagevibe - Getting back into using hardware synths goes hand-in-hand with your user name.  Reading your new post gave me a good strong memory hit of how immediate and solid the experience was of working with hardware - I get ya.
 
And I think what you say in that quote I pulled out makes sense.  So now you'll be doing the right click thing to disengage that Sonar fader, and that should work for what you're doing.  Just don't touch the fader again since that re-engages it.  - (And you don't need stacks of MIDI Filter Plugins to do what you want.)
 
Hope it all goes more smoothly now for you.
 
RB