On would figure that Cake was a part of Roland; and now with being a part of Gibson (along with Tascam), that it would move them up in stature ..but apparently not. Cake also seems to have the smarts and teamwork skills to get fixes done, so it has made me wonder on occasion.
 
I do feel sometimes that Cake is the red-headed stepchild of DAWs sometimes. But they are the metaphorical basket to which most of my metaphorical eggs are in, so I'd like to see them get more respect in terms of vendors working with them to make compatibility flawless. 
 

Cake has led the "charge" on a lot of things.
"Touch" is the "cause du jour", that's fine.
Control surfaces aren't really "broken", but certainly have been "ignored".
They led the charge there; I had one of the Peavy "Cakewalk" units.
Personally I "hate" touch, had an "experience" with the wife's iPhone yesterday.
Sonar gets ignored; what else is new?
 
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Mod Bod

Goooler
Currently Raven is only an Apple friendly program.
They say it will be Windows compatible in the next release.
 
FYI

Apple and Pro Tools. 

Makes sense.  If you are going to market to the most potential customers, why target a product that has a $2500.00 price point at a SONAR user base that touts the included plugins as a major value and already has touch screen capabilities.

It's obvious to me why the SONAR GUI is the way it is (spread out) - to make for ease of touch screen use.

I agree...
With Sonar X3 and a nice multi-touch monitor, you have most of the same features... for a whole lot less $$$.
IMO, Raven is too niche a product to survive long-term.
As multi-touch monitors (and support) improve and increase in popularity, the cost will go down... making Raven even more niche.  
$2500 buys a nice digital console... which provides tangible knobs/faders.
 

DeeringAmps
"Touch" is the "cause du jour", that's fine.

personally, it's not fine for me, as the whole gui has been re-jigged to support touch, whether i have a touch screen or not, at the expense of non-touch users
furthermore, and imho, i believe touch to be useful on small devices (tabs & phones) but at the desktop level i think it's a solution looking for issues... just because we can doesn't mean we should...

amiller
 
1)  EZDrummer 2 compatibility issue not being addressed by Toontrack.

What is the compatibility issue you speak of? Got a link? I have not run into any issues so far.

Guitarmech111

amiller
 
1)  EZDrummer 2 compatibility issue not being addressed by Toontrack.

What is the compatibility issue you speak of? Got a link? I have not run into any issues so far.

that's to do with version 2 having more outputs that v1, sonar can't swap number of outs on the fly so can't handle projects started with v1 but then opened after v2 is installed?

amiller
So, I've seen three instances recently where it seems to me that SONAR is being slighted. 
 
1)  EZDrummer 2 compatibility issue not being addressed by Toontrack.
2)  Steven Slate Raven 2.0 mentions a handful of compatible DAW's...no mention of SONAR.
3)  Groove3 has a Superior Drummer video with a section on how to set up your DAW...a handful of DAW's discussed but NOT SONAR.
 
As a longtime, and I love it, SONAR user I want to know...What's up wit dat?

Have you tried contacting them to find out?
The only way they are going to change is peer pressure. I'm afraid there's not much we can do about it unless you want to start a petition :)

BTW there are tons of Sonar tutorials on Groove3. In regards to GUI's Windows 8.1 has finally shown it is possible to have a touchscreen and a desktop GUI UI at the same time IMHO.

Ta

lawp: Airbags were developed at the cost of non-airbag vehicles, but they ended being a good thing - right?
 
Would you rather be an innovator or an adopter? Ask those who use Pro Tools that question.
 
 

lawp

Guitarmech111

amiller
 
1)  EZDrummer 2 compatibility issue not being addressed by Toontrack.

What is the compatibility issue you speak of? Got a link? I have not run into any issues so far.

that's to do with version 2 having more outputs that v1, sonar can't swap number of outs on the fly so can't handle projects started with v1 but then opened after v2 is installed?

I would get an official word from Cakewalk before blaming Toontrack on this. I don't think there are any other hosts having this issue as far as I know.

hockeyjxlawp: Airbags were developed at the cost of non-airbag vehicles, but they ended being a good thing - right?

that doesn't mean everything is good - right? we regularly get new ways of doing stuff in software, and hardware, but we don't necessarily use them... but the big companies would like to make some of their r&d money back, so let's go with that solution for a couple of years... i'm waiting on holograms ;-)