Does not really matter what anybody thinks. The market dictates. The fondleslab market is too big to ignore, and desktops are shrinking (too big to ignore as well). And it is possible to have a good UI to accommodate for desktops and fondleslabs. So win win providing Cake designs X4 well. I think there's gonna be a lot of pressure to get X4 right I do hope they miss a release cycle to do it. In the meantime we need an X3F.

Guitarmech111

lawp

Guitarmech111

amiller
 
1)  EZDrummer 2 compatibility issue not being addressed by Toontrack.

What is the compatibility issue you speak of? Got a link? I have not run into any issues so far.

that's to do with version 2 having more outputs that v1, sonar can't swap number of outs on the fly so can't handle projects started with v1 but then opened after v2 is installed?

I would get an official word from Cakewalk before blaming Toontrack on this. I don't think there are any other hosts having this issue as far as I know.

from what i read on the forum regarding ezd2, it seems the most likely cause? i'm not trying to blame anyone in particular but just understand what's going on :-) anyway, no one supplier/vendor will blame another as it does neither any good in the marketplace

No, not every invention/feature is good (I mean, look at the flop that was 3d tv). But the point is: I'd rather have a company that is closer to the crest of the wave and trying to refine a product than one that stands pat as everyone else rushes by ...even with a few swings and misses.
 
 

CakeAlexS
Doe not really matter what anybody thinks. The fondleslab market is too big to ignore, and desktops are shrinking (too big to ignore as well). And it is possible to have a good UI to accommodate for desktops and fondleslabs. So win win providing Cake designs X4 well. I think there's gonna be a lot of pressure to get X4 right I do hope they miss a release cycle to do it.

you may as well go over to apple now ;-)

hockeyjx
No, not every invention/feature is good (I mean, look at the flop that was 3d tv). But the point is: I'd rather have a company that is closer to the crest of the wave and trying to refine a product than one that stands pat as everyone else rushes by ...even with a few swings and misses.

yeah fair enough, though i'd rather they were expert/zenmaster at what they do rather than trying to jump the next wave... cakewalk, get the current featureset airtight before adding more new "features"! (tia ;-)

Mod Bod
FWIW, every time I run the VST scan, Addictive Drums comes up with a problem and the scanner wants to know if I want to disable it.  I enter "No" and at the end of the scan, the VST scanner crashes.  (Yes, I have already done a online installer repair for Addictive Drums 1.)  The only thing I can come up with for a reason is that I tried the AD2 demo and uninstalled it and maybe, I wrecked some registry setting.  Eventually, I'll clean my hard drive and registry of AD entries and install it again.
 
So, I don't think CW leans towards Addictive Drums exclusively.  I just think there are problems that aren't addressed because they are missed in testing.
 
 

This happens to me if I try to open Sonar X2a, but not with X3e. Everything is good here with EZD2 and AD2. I have not tried opening any older projects, but they are done and don't need opened. Dodged a bullet I guess.

mmorgan
The only thing I have mild concern about is Cakewalk remaining a financially sound firm and given the interaction on this forum my guess is it will.

Cakewalk is doing fine, thanks to a loyal user base and X3 being a great release. On any list of things to be concerned about, Cakewalk going out of business is so far down the list it can't be seen by the naked eye. 
 
Resources still need to catch up, so we can't accelerate the process of moving forward as fast as we'd like...it takes a while to ramp up new hires and such to find the right people. But there's a lot of excitement at Cakewalk these days, and plans are being put in place for what I think will be a very bright future.

Anderton

mmorgan
The only thing I have mild concern about is Cakewalk remaining a financially sound firm and given the interaction on this forum my guess is it will.

Cakewalk is doing fine, thanks to a loyal user base and X3 being a great release. On any list of things to be concerned about, Cakewalk going out of business is so far down the list it can't be seen by the naked eye. 
 
Resources still need to catch up, so we can't accelerate the process of moving forward as fast as we'd like...it takes a while to ramp up new hires and such to find the right people. But there's a lot of excitement at Cakewalk these days, and plans are being put in place for what I think will be a very bright future.

Craig just to be clear: I wasn't trying to imply that I felt Cakewalk was in any kind of financial danger. I was addressing that whether Cakewalk was mentioned or not (i.e. slighted) simply doesn't matter and, as I stated, given the robust interaction on this forum it seems to me as being highly unlikely that there is any distress at Cakewalk.
 
Regards,
 

Guitarmech111

lawp

Guitarmech111

amiller
 
1)  EZDrummer 2 compatibility issue not being addressed by Toontrack.

What is the compatibility issue you speak of? Got a link? I have not run into any issues so far.

that's to do with version 2 having more outputs that v1, sonar can't swap number of outs on the fly so can't handle projects started with v1 but then opened after v2 is installed?

I would get an official word from Cakewalk before blaming Toontrack on this. I don't think there are any other hosts having this issue as far as I know.

But for now the EZiest solution is to reassign the MIDI of a "falsely" routed VSTi (in your EZD V1 project opened under EZD V2) back to the proper instrument. Works like a champ then.
 
Simples.
 
Note, the problem seems to arise when the V1 was instantiated with multiple outs (this I can confirm) and you have other VSTi's in the project. If you only have EZDrummer in the project (i.e. no other VSTi's) then you do not see the problem. 

In answer to the question, I have more than one thread out here about EZ Drummer 2 issues. Sweetwater can replicate my problems easily by following the same scenarios.  Toontrack and Cakewalk acknowledge the issue.  Toontrack says it is waiting on Cakewalk to get back to them.  I don't know Cakewalk's position on this.
 
Issues (and there may be others):
• In a project that had EZ Drummer 1, after the upgrade to EZ Drummer 2, opening the drum interface will break the soft synth routings.  You can usually fix this by splitting instrument tracks and rerouting—but see the problems below.
• Many frozen synths cannot be unfrozen and therefore the routing can't be fixed.
• Synths do not freeze reliably.
• The project will lose either 1-audio from several of the soft synths or 2-all audio output (even though you see meters moving).  Once the project is corrupted, I know of no way to fix it.