It used to be in older version I believe, if you wanted to hear a soft synth as you played it in real time, you needed the "input echo" button engaged (and minimize your latency settings).  I guess that got changed with simple instrument tracks??   I say because I can play one and it doesn't matter anymore.   It appears you can also play the FX in the bin with it engaged or not...which seemed new to me (coming from 7PE)
 
So...reading and reading...still trying to get me head around that feature.
 
ALSO... trying to use the loopback function in my audio interface, so I can record screen captures AND hear the FX in Sonar at the same time.  However, engaging the input echo AND my loopback of course causes a nasty loop for feedback.   Not sure how I can record with the loopback feature on the interface AND have the input echo engaged at the same time, so I can hear the FX in real time...and RECORD to my screen capture program...
 
and quite honestly, I'm not totally understanding why the loopback feature just by itself doesn't start runaway feedback.
 
So I guess two topics.... understand the loopback feature better and how to use it WITH the input echo engaged. 

Any ideas of using the loopback function on my Steinberg UR-44 interface and a channel's "input echo" engaged so I could "screen capture" audio FX within Sonar?

Currently, it's like pointing a mic at a floor monitor!
 
Something's weird with the input echo engaged on a VSTi... as there are no problems, probably because the sound is generated internally, versus using an analog input, going into Sonar....which is where I'm having the feedback issues.

You probably can get it to work ... but it'd hurt my brain to try and work it out ;).
 
In the meantime, if so inclined, take a look at VoiceMeeter (Donationware). It's a Virtual Mixer/Loopback solution with ASIO/low latency output integration. Working great for me ... and I'm not sure I've tapped it's potential ...especially when combined with other available virtual cables.
 
Note: Still be careful with input echo. Feedback is possible but controllable. Rule of thumb - keep input echo OFF.
 
BTW: For video capture I use MS Expression Screen Capture which works nicely too (HD, free).

I don't think you'd ever be able to use the Loopback audio port (which returns the entire output signal - back to an input port to allow recording) and be able to process the resultant input signal while monitoring the results.
That scenario is the very definition of a feedback loop.   ;)
 
I'd just save the processing on the returning (input) signal for post production.
That's where you're going to assemble/edit the video.
If I'm understanding properly, that would be the perfect time to "sweeten" the audio.
 
Otherwise, you could use external devices (probably not what you're looking for)
ie:  Process the audio output with external gear... and capture the processed audio back into the DAW (or using a portable recorder - to capture the audio).  Separate portable audio recorders are often used when dealing with lower budget video shoots... where the onboard audio quality is sketchy.
 
What about using the UR-44's onboard DSP to process the final output?
If you could get by with those processing tools, you could hear the result without creating feedback (and you could record the result using the Loopback port).  Essentially using "external" (to the DAW) processing...

Here's a specific of what I'm trying to do.  I have been using Bandicam for screen capture to do videos I am posting on Youtube.  I've had no troubles using items already recorded in the computer...audio tracks, showing ProChannel modules, etc.  That's been working great.
 
Now I wanted to plug a live instrument into Sonar, via the UR44, and then monitor the processing that Sonar does (which requires the input echo turned on), and capture it in Bandicam.  Everything I've been capturing else wise, the audio has been just fine.  

IOW, I can't find a way that I can demonstrate using a live guitar, the plugins inside Sonar.  If the guitar is already recorded, no problem, because I don't need the input echo on.  But when playing live AND making a video at the same time, is where I get into trouble.  I've mucked with settings, etc...but like Jim says.... I'm just incorporating the definition of a feedback loop.

I'm sure there's a way.. just need to figure it out.

I *may* be confusing... so let me set up a specific signal path, etc that I would like to screen capture and make a video.
 
I would like to plug in my guitar into my UR44, and demonstate one of the Nomad plugins AS I'M PLAYING LIVE.  The 64 sample latency I can get is fine for live playing and to capture the audio in my screen capture program, I must have the loopback function turned on, on the UR44.  Otherwise I get no audio at all.  However, the only way playing live and show plugin adjustments (that might be suited to what I'm currently playing), the only way I know is to have the input echo on, or just pre record the guitar.  However, I want to play live and talk at the same time.

Clear as mud!! ??
 
Admittedly, I have not seen other videos like this...just vids that has stuff that is already recorded.  I've other computers available as well, if that's needed somehow.
 

I understand ... and good on you for wanting to get your hardware to do it (which it may be able to do) but ...
 
I had the same dilemma when I wanted to video live Vocoder ... so I hunted for a solution ...
 
I have no affiliation so this I won't mention it in this thread again but VoiceMeeter is the nuts.
(I found another one in my travels that'll do it too - WDM ASIO Link Driver (US$14.95))
But VoiceMeeter does the trick for me.
 
I just had a quick hack ...
Firstly I videoed voice and guitar through my mixer/audio interface ... all outside of Sonar  (with low latency Kernal Stream USB drivers of my audio interface).
I then opened Sonar, put a prerecorded loop of a Rapture Theremin on in the background.
Opened a Z3TA+2 Arp - played live
(Sonar outputs using ASIO)
... switching to guitar ... and doing some yeah yeahs on the mic, all at the same time
 
And videoed the lot .... audio captured great. Alas it's not a keeper ;). 
 

Ummm ... I must admit ...
 
I had a go trying to play live through Nomad FX (and video) - no success yet.
I thought I had it ... but when I played the video back it was minus the effect.
 
I don't give up that easy ... but might have to return to it in another sitting.

mixmkr
  I've other computers available as well, if that's needed somehow.

You could route the total processed signal to the other computer... and monitor/record the end result from it.
Essentially, it would be the same as a dedicated hardware based recorder.

Jim Roseberry

mixmkr
  I've other computers available as well, if that's needed somehow.

You could route the total processed signal to the other computer... and monitor/record the end result from it.
Essentially, it would be the same as a dedicated hardware based recorder.

That seems like a solution initially, but I still can't do a screen capture and capture the audio WHILE playing live into Sonar and making adjustments, that you could hear.  Playback yes...playing live, no.
Thanks for your comments Jim.  We'll find a solution.
 
ShellstaX...I'll check those links.  THANKS MUCH.