• SONAR
  • [Resolved] I uninstalled X3 Producer and went back to Studio
2014/05/25 00:29:38
cpkoch
When I re-installed X3 Studio I found that the default Track View was no longer popping up as I tried to start a new project.   All I saw was a blank space where there used to be one audio track and one midi track plus other features.  How can I get the old view set back?  
2014/05/25 05:17:11
Soft Enerji
I have no idea what could be causing your problem but have to ask...........why did you feel the need to go back to Studio?
2014/05/25 06:40:30
mettelus
Hi Conrad, if you modify a new project as you would like to see them appear, you can then "save as..." choose "template" and call it "Normal"
 
The "Normal" template is the default used when SONAR creates a new project (if using the "Normal" option (also default)).
 
As to your question, X3 Producer's "Normal" template is totally blank for me as well, so it may have been overwritten on the installation of Producer. I actually left it alone, since I have grown to like simply right clicking and adding the track type I want to start off with.
2014/05/25 11:35:24
cpkoch
Thanks Mike
 
I kind of assumed that something like that happened.  I hadn't thought about it before; but, you are right.  It is actually beneficial to have blank space. It was just surprised me I guess.  I  any event, I was in the habit of deleting the Midi track,  Now that's unecessary!
 
2014/05/25 11:46:03
...wicked
Soft Enerji
I have no idea what could be causing your problem but have to ask...........why did you feel the need to go back to Studio?



Ditto this. Does that mean you purchased both X3 Studio and X3 Producer and are NOT using the latter? Strange.
2014/05/25 13:01:48
cpkoch
 
Soft Enerji
NOT using the latter? Strange.


I can't get Producer to do the things I purchased it for  .. Transpose Formant Scaling in particular.  Moreover it is not recognized  as having been installed as I try to apply the  X3e patch. 
2014/05/25 16:22:36
Bristol_Jonesey
cpkoch
 
Soft Enerji
NOT using the latter? Strange.


I can't get Producer to do the things I purchased it for  .. Transpose Formant Scaling in particular.  Moreover it is not recognized  as having been installed as I try to apply the  X3e patch. 


Well if Producer can't do what you want, then i don't think Studio will!
 
You must be something a bit out of the ordinary for a patch not to work. I'm sure if you want to try again you'll get a bucketload of help.
2014/05/25 17:26:34
cpkoch
As to Producer vs Studio
I bought Producer only because Studio was not capable of producing Formant Scaling.  Ostensibly Producer was.  It turns out that Producer was not able to do do it either ... contrary to what Cakewalk claims.    Accordingly I spent $149 that I could better use to (as I said in an earlier post) by a round of drinks at a local bar.
 
As to the X3e patch not recognizing that X3a Producer existed tell me if this makes sense ... 
 
I had to install Producer in a directory that was not C:/ProgramFiles.  There was not enough storage memory to install it there so I installed it on another HDD. Having done this the many times with other programs,  I do not recall having an issues with it.  I suspect however, that the Sonar X3e [atch install process, limits its search to the default HDD location C:/Program Files. Since Producer is installed somewhere else the patch fails to install. Rather than go thorough my entire set of programs, uninstall them and then re-install them on a different drive (as I think is necessary) in order to make room for X3 Producer in C:/Program Files I just resorted to forgetting about Producer.
 
Maybe, someday (in the next month or so) hopefully,  I will get a response from  Cakewalk telling me what I must do to resolve the issues I've raised.    



2014/05/25 20:15:18
rbowser
cpkoch, I asked this on one of your other threads - I'm not sure you answered.  Is X3 the first version of Cakewalk you ever had?  The formant tool you want is in the previously available V-Vocal, which has now been thrown out for Melodyne.  But people who had earlier versions of Cakewalk still have V-Vocal available to them in X3 - doesn't matter if it's Studio or Producer, since those are the same program with extra synths and other plugins added to Producer.
 
V-Vocal was/is great for the formant editing you're talking about.  It's really essential on vocals when you're shifting up or down - you have to correct the formant for the pitch shift to sound natural.
 
Randy
2014/05/25 20:34:23
cpkoch
Hi Randy
 
Thanks for your persistence and please accept my  apology for not having answered you.  Sonar X3  is my first DAW.  I started out with plain old X3 then bought  Studio. The other day I bought Producer.  Upgrades were primarily to develop the ability to enhance and correct vocals ... first with Melodyne Essential than for the non-existent Formant Scaling feature as part of the Transpose  that turns out not embedded in Producer only  or anywhere that I can find!  
 
I've signaled Cakewalk for a solution but no reply as yet!  I understand that V-Vocal was replaced with Melodyne.  I find that Melodyne does not do what I would like it to do for the scaling function. At least I can find nothing that simply accomplishes the task. Moreover, I find that having to render the audio into Melodyne and then figure out how to do the correct Formant changes on the stuff that sounds weird is something of a PITA.  Do you suppose it'll work if I just knew a little more about how to use it?  By the way ... if someone knows a process that does the job in Melodyne ... i.e., easily ...  I would welcome the guidance.   
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