Beepster
 
A lot of the issues people seem to have is just not being able to see those extra sends all at once right in the CV. I like ModBod's idea which is the most elegant solution. 

Not my idea - I cut and pasted it from SONAR Pre-X with a few tweaks I lifted from other products.

Mod Bod

djwayne
Well I have a full selection of effects in my Pro Channel. With the VKFX chorus, delay and overdrive, along with the Concrete Limiter, the TSAR-1R reverb, Breverb, PC FX's chain...I've got plenty of effects to work with and don't need any other third party effects...X3's effects are all good enough for me and are saving me a bundle on third party effects I don't really need. Sonar's effects quality is right up there with anything else I've used. 
 
Once you get used to using the Pro Channel, you don't need anything else.

That and a Rode NT1a and you're golden, I guess. 

Hey Cakewalk Marketing Department - mark this one as a success. 
 
 

 
I've got a Marshall MXL V69 tube mic, a Roland Micro Cube, an Ampeg BA-108 Bass Amp, a M-Audio Fast Track USB interface... I'm all set...

Mod Bod

Beepster
 
A lot of the issues people seem to have is just not being able to see those extra sends all at once right in the CV. I like ModBod's idea which is the most elegant solution. 

Not my idea - I cut and pasted it from SONAR Pre-X with a few tweaks I lifted from other products.

Ah... I initially thought it was a screengrab from a previous version (I've only been a user since X1) but then saw you say you had manipulated the image so I thought it was pure ModBod.
 
I hear a lot of talk about certain things from the pre X days that are appealing to me and this would qualify. However there are a lot of things in the X series I like much more (which is why I chose Sonar when building my new system).
 
I know it would probably be bad from a business standpoint but it'd be cool if Cake offered legacy releases so some of us n00bs could play around with previous versions if we wanted.
 
Cheers.

Fly out windows and hideable modules are all helpful to me but there is some information that I need to see from a global birds eye perspective.  This is as opposed to a skylight perspective where information on the periphery is hidden or requires adjustment in order to bring it into view.

I like to be able see my input and output routing, the effects that are being used on a track and, the routing and volume levels of sends, my input gain (to a lesser extent) of each track, Mute, Solo, polarity, pan and volume level.
If I have to scroll to see something taking into consideration that after 50 tracks or so, some sort of scrolling will be necessary no matter how a console view is designed.


 

Beepster

Mod Bod

Beepster
 
A lot of the issues people seem to have is just not being able to see those extra sends all at once right in the CV. I like ModBod's idea which is the most elegant solution. 

Not my idea - I cut and pasted it from SONAR Pre-X with a few tweaks I lifted from other products.

Ah... I initially thought it was a screengrab from a previous version (I've only been a user since X1) but then saw you say you had manipulated the image so I thought it was pure ModBod.
 
I hear a lot of talk about certain things from the pre X days that are appealing to me and this would qualify. However there are a lot of things in the X series I like much more (which is why I chose Sonar when building my new system).
 
I know it would probably be bad from a business standpoint but it'd be cool if Cake offered legacy releases so some of us n00bs could play around with previous versions if we wanted.
 
Cheers.

I like the X series as well but why abandon the best bits of past releases if it makes your working environment more powerful?

So it works better on touch?

I agree but I get the distinct feeling the Bakers may have had their hands tied in many ways by the previous parent company. There may have been outside factors hamfistedly guiding some of the decisions being made. Add to that the struggles and logistics of a complete overhaul such as the X series and you have a perfect storm of useful things slipping through the cracks.
 
I feel far more confident with the release of X3 and having Gibson holding the purse strings. You can already see how much happier the Bakers seem to be, the steady improvements being made even in just the patches and the steady flow of resource material coming forth. I'm sure these nagging issues will get dealt with now that they aren't having to struggle with bugs and what seemed to be quite a bit of internal weirdness.
 
Let's just hope Gibson/Tascam sees this as an investment worth dumping enough cash into to make it everything it could be. I think Sonar really could knock out a lot of other players now that the infamous bugginess is mostly gone. Should be plenty of time to focus on features and workflow now.

We should all call Roland/Cakewalk and just say "More Than 2 Sends!" then hang up

No such thing as Roland/Cakewalk anymore... which I think is probably a good thing. Hoping the Tascam/Gibson/Cakewalk combo is going to make all our dreams come true. ;-)

Beepster
No such thing as Roland/Cakewalk anymore... which I think is probably a good thing. Hoping the Tascam/Gibson/Cakewalk combo is going to make all our dreams come true. ;-)

I don't think all your dreams will come true; there is no truth to the rumor that every current Sonar user will have an all expenses paid week in Hawaii. So let's just leave it at "actions speak louder than words." Consider what has happened with the program and the company in the past six months, and extrapolate from there.
 
Gibson is a company that encourages innovation, and Cakewalk fits in perfectly with that goal. Of course what we want to do and what we can do will always have some kind of gap - we have pretty big dreams - but one of our biggest competitive advantages is the range of comments we get from the user community. That drove the recent updates and will continue to drive future ideas.
 
Keep those suggestions coming even if it appears they're not leading anywhere. Some things take a lot of time to implement, or need to be implemented along with related features. Cakewalk will never be 100% responsive, but will always be 100% interested in constant improvement that benefits as many users as possible.