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2014/05/11 12:08:10
DeeringAmps
NO!
$50 is what I paid for the 1" I let my "life's work" rust away on!
Tom
2014/05/11 13:10:08
mettelus
+1 to the "No"s

Another massive downside of analog is that everything is done in real time. Life is only so long, so processing anything in analog has little appeal when a computer can turn hours into seconds.
2014/05/11 13:19:29
sharke
As an ex-painter, I don't miss working with tape at all.

Oh wait, what?
2014/05/11 13:34:49
joakes
One word - No.
 
Cheers,
Jerry
2014/05/11 14:27:40
konradh
No.  Tape was noisy; it suffered from drop-outs, deterioration, and print-through; it could be edited only in very limited ways; it degraded the quality of the audio (recorded did not sound like live); and there were track limitations.  Tape was costly, required lots of storage in environmentally controlled spaces, and could not easily be backed-up—and back-ups degraded quality.  Tape had a limited shelf life and was easy to ruin.
 
I worked on 4, 8, 16, and 24 track machines in home, mid-sized, and large studios, and I miss nothing about tape.
 
On a related topic:
 
Although there were certainly automated mixers, they were nowhere near as easy to use as a DAW and they could automate only a fraction of the things we can control now.
 
I am not crazy about the feel of soft knobs/encoders on my console compared to pans and sends on a large desk, and it is sometimes awkward to page on a digital console compared to rolling your chair over to channel 32; however, I will gladly live with the lack of feel compared to the improved function and progammability.
2014/05/11 15:22:45
sharke
robert_e_bone
I think that those of us who came of age in the world of tape have a deep appreciation for the incredible horsepower we have these days, whereas my son has NO CONCEPT of what a 'cassette' is.
 
I would say that the ONE thing about that whole era I TRULY miss with all my heart and soul is 'Album Art'.  I spent MANY evenings lost under the headphones while quite stoned, staring deeply into the beautiful imagery of Roger Dean and listening to Yes or Jon Anderson's Olias of Sunhillow.
 
Now, all you get is a mug shot of a snarky, smirking, Justin Doodoo.
 
Bob Bone
 




To be fair, what you've lost in not being able to sit stoned under the headphones gawking at trippy album art, you've gained in being able to sit stoned under the headphones gawking at an almost infinite supply of wonderful artwork on the internet.
2014/05/11 15:23:27
mmorgan
robert_e_bone
...
I would say that the ONE thing about that whole era I TRULY miss with all my heart and soul is 'Album Art'.  I spent MANY evenings lost under the headphones
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Yes to this * 10 gazillion. 
 
Regards,
2014/05/11 15:29:58
AT
I appreciate the convenience of digital as much as the next guy.  Tape did have a nice sound, tho, a certain fat roundness.  even my 1/2-inch 8 track Tascam 38.   You can get most of that w/ a nice front end channel or stack, however.
 
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2014/05/11 17:16:09
jude77
Maybe if I had somebody to rewind it, fast forward it, splice it, get decent SN levels, solve the cross-talk issue, de-gauss/align the heads, maintain the machine mechanically, and worry that an outside track would get bumped and lose signal I would.  But, until then, no.
2014/05/11 20:49:05
melmyers
I got my first tape recorder for Christmas when I was 8 years old. (My dad had a WIRE recorder when I was a toddler.) I used tape recorders professionally in studios and radio stations for decades. I don't miss them. 
 
The OP asked for specifics, so...
Although I became a pro at editing tape with a grease pencil and a razor blade, the occasional bad edit was difficult to piece together and try again without a blip in the sound. Similarly, if a razor blade became magnetized, (which would happen naturally if a blade had been used a lot), every edit would have a blip. Knowing how to edit well with tape certainly informed my ability to edit digitally, but I'm glad I don't have to buy splicing tape, blades and grease pencils. Also, the Undo button is a blessing. 
 
I like what tape did for the sound of certain instruments, but the hiss was always annoying. Today's tape emulations do a great job, including X3's built-in emulation. UAD's Ampex ATR-102 with 456 tape sounds exactly like the real deal to my ears. And I can turn off the noise!
 
When I'm working on a project alone, I don't miss rewind time. I must say, tough, that rewind time was always a moment for the band to have a quick discussion on how to improve the next take. I keep that thought in mind when recording others, so even though all I've got to do is return to zero and start recording again immediately, I usually give talent a little bit of time to get their heads together before saying, "Here we go again" and punching Record. 
 
There are plenty more reasons to not want to go back to tape...like keeping heads aligned, making sure bias is set correctly for each individual tape formulation (you couldn't just swap to a different kind of tape without resetting bias), keeping alcohol & q-tips handy for cleaning heads...and the high cost of tape. The rock station I programmed was the first in my town with digital multi-track in the commercial production studio, and my main selling point to management was that we could quit spending hundreds of dollars a year on tape, eventually paying for the new digital studio. 
 
I miss the tape recorder like people missed the horse-and-buggy after cars were invented. It was fun, but this is WAYYY more fun. 
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