2014/05/09 15:55:34
AGBFunkyBassman
Greetings
 
I have a song with Soprano, Alto, Tenor & Bass Vocals. Was going to record the vocals myself (albeit in the wrong octave) and was wondering whats the the best way to Choir-ise it.
 
The obvious way is to record multiple takes of each part (assuming my voice can last out) but was wondering what process I could use to simulate 20+ of me singing rather than one for each part
 
Thanks for any advice/hints/tips/scorn/derison !
 
 
2014/05/09 16:07:41
Anderton
There are lots ways to do process a clone of your original track. The more clones, the merrier. You can also try cloning the processed tracks to take the processing further.
 
1. Check out the article about ADT (automatic double-tracking) using Melodyne Essential I just posted in the Cakewalk blog.
2. I did a lengthy series of posts about how to do varispeed effects with Sonar's Loop Construction window but NOT using it to create Groove Clips. You can use varispeed to change the formant by speeding up or slowing down, then do ctrl-click+drag on the clip edge to restore the clip to the desired length. (BTW ignore the guy saying it doesn't work, he apparently thought the technique involved making Groove Clips.)
3. If you still have V-Vocal installed, change the voice formant and timings somewhat.
4. Combine all of the above.
 
2014/05/09 16:08:49
MorganT
Multiple options, but if you have Melodyne, one is to make copies of the track, and use Melodyne to edit the attack and formant.  Their website has a good video on this.
2014/05/09 17:23:25
markyzno
Melodyne all the way.
 
You are on X3e, run a tutorial from you tube and happy Choiring!
2014/05/09 17:26:35
cclarry
AGBFunkyBassman
Greetings
 
I have a song with Soprano, Alto, Tenor & Bass Vocals. Was going to record the vocals myself (albeit in the wrong octave) and was wondering whats the the best way to Choir-ise it.
 
The obvious way is to record multiple takes of each part (assuming my voice can last out) but was wondering what process I could use to simulate 20+ of me singing rather than one for each part
 
Thanks for any advice/hints/tips/scorn/derison !
 
 



There's always Multiple instances of Antares Harmony Engine or Vielklang Instant Harmony...
Or Anatares Choir plugin...or multiple instances of Choir...

Or, of course, as stated, the Mutliple tracks of each vocal with "minor" tweaking to get the "not the same voice" effect...


2014/05/09 22:43:51
bitflipper
After you've spent hours with Melodyne only to finally realize that the effect isn't what you were after after all, go back to your first intuition and double/triple/quad track every part. That's the way it's done when it's done right.
2014/05/09 23:16:18
MorganT
Agree with bit flipper.  For me it's far quicker to do multiple tracks than to edit single tracks or play with effects, and each take has more clearly different voicing as well.  I like to use different mic's for each take too, gives different color to the voice on each track.  
2014/05/11 09:19:34
g_randybrown
MorganT
Agree with bit flipper.  For me it's far quicker to do multiple tracks than to edit single tracks or play with effects, and each take has more clearly different voicing as well.  I like to use different mic's for each take too, gives different color to the voice on each track.  


What about the women's parts?


2014/05/11 10:03:28
Blogman
when you're singing doubles with yourself, trying changing the timbre of your voice so as not to sound like yourself singing multiple parts. Choir characters. I do choir parts alot. Sometimes for fun I layer quantum leap symph choir ( each sec separate, same parts and singing the words) with my voice.
2014/05/11 11:19:07
g_randybrown
Blogman
when you're singing doubles with yourself, trying changing the timbre of your voice so as not to sound like yourself singing multiple parts. Choir characters. I do choir parts alot. Sometimes for fun I layer quantum leap symph choir ( each sec separate, same parts and singing the words) with my voice.

Interesting, I recently bought Requiem Light and was wondering if it would be worth the effort to try just that...I reckon I will now...thanks!
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