• SONAR
  • When I load Addictive drums or EZ drummer + several vsts - starts cutting the tone (p.2)
2013/12/04 09:34:43
Kalle Rantaaho
VuL4o
So in other words i need to boost my CPU speed somehow or get a new machine ... because disabling and enabling tracks ill loose where I'm at or what am I singing/playing nd stuff




You don't lose anything. Read the manual about freezing/bouncing etc. Your machine can run loads of audio tracks, it's some of the VSTs that are the problem. Then, when you get in the mixing stage, you can raise the buffers and use heavier VSTs when latency is no longer an issue.
Also, you can for example disable EQs and reverbs of recorded tracks, or use lighter versions etc. 
 
I have a weaker PC than yours, and I can build 40 track projects (50/50 audio and MIDI) without problems.
2013/12/04 10:35:48
Sanderxpander
I agree. Freezing tracks/fx and finding ways to work with higher latency settings can make a HUGE difference. Also, looking back to your first post, it is not usually recommended to keep a reverb plugin as an insert on each track individually. Reverbs can be very cpu hungry. Specific cases aside, you put a 100 percent wet reverb on a buss and create a send to that buss from each channel you need reverb on. While you may still end up with multiple reverbs (I usually have at least three) this should still save you a lot of cpu versus putting a reverb on each track. Not to mention it will probably help the sound of your mix.
2013/12/05 05:42:04
VuL4o
Well how am i soposed to play what i want to play if i dont use the effects at real time i cant really understand what will be at the end ( that is for bypass vst ) as for latency and buffering i cannot afford to have latency because some of the stuff cannot be played at that kind of latency for instance at 180 tempo when u play alternate picking from 6 tones ull get 3 or 4 max with latency , but i have another thing in mind ... i am having an valve amp build for me and have a friend that hase the same thing and the only thing he does ( he has all his effects from the outside ) he imputs and records the signal ... so no vsts no **** ... so i Think that if i do that everything should be fine right ? But the thing is the way im working i will travel and i need a laptop that will do this for me ... or at least a pc ... can you please advise fome kind of machine that will do the work for 10 12 tracks no more than that 
2013/12/05 05:45:48
VuL4o
Have another idea - to use cakewalk features on reaper ( but i cannot imput pro channel or tape emulator or stuff ... ) i have both , already have paid for the producer edition ... i feel totally screwed  :D 
 
2013/12/05 07:21:03
VuL4o
Okey soo i did Ive log on to reaper ive put 1 channel ez drummer 2 channel guitar  vst ts 808+le 465 (fireball simulator) + le cab 2 on which i add 4 different sounds + reverb + eq  for now seems then i duplicate this track .. when i play them at the same real time bugging its ass off , turn of one record the other and play a solo on it its ok ... then i put a 3rd track again all hell breaks loose i remove couple of the features on the 3rd track and leave it just on ts808 vst ,,, barely standing with 80 % dropout on sonar it would have been on the second track ... sooo what now to play with the latency buffering fast /safe ? 
2013/12/05 12:07:04
Sanderxpander
I hate to tell you, but you simply can't get what you want - super low latency and a ton of VSTs on your tracks - especially on your recording track. In that case, yes, you do need a new system, and while it will help a lot it will be easy to tax that too if you keep stacking VSTs. How about using a simple Overloud TH2 preset for your recording track, and switching to your custom fx chain later during mixdown, when you can affors higher latencies and frozen tracks. Also try freezing AD once you've set it up.
2013/12/06 06:18:14
VuL4o
Okey im already thinking of buying new pc not laptop could you tell me what type of parameters do i need to work good towards great not just to start up the program
2013/12/06 06:33:30
Bristol_Jonesey
You have 3 options:
 
  1. Build one yourself, to your specifications (cheapest solution)
  2. Buy an off the shelf machine (more expensive)
  3. Use one of the many specialist DAW builders, 2 of which frequent this site (most expensive option)
 
Give us some idea of budget and intended use. i.e. is it just you recording yourself, or do you want to record whole bands/drum kits etc
2013/12/06 08:35:29
Kalle Rantaaho
VuL4o
Well how am i soposed to play what i want to play if i dont use the effects at real time i cant really understand what will be at the end ( that is for bypass vst ) as for latency and buffering i cannot afford to have latency because some of the stuff cannot be played ....... 




Don't get stuck in the bypassing, freezing and bouncing are much more relevant, and they're mentioned in several posts already.
And you don't need to bypass, say, the amp sim you're recording, but some other FX on the other tracks. You don't need a convolution reverb or a linear phase EQ on a monitored accompanying track.
 
Whatever system you build for yourself, you can crash it with overload if you don't learn the basics of how to use them.
2013/12/06 08:57:00
chuckebaby
freezing doesn't bypass anything, it just freezes all movements to that channel EG; you cant make adjustments to vst's, exc.
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