• SONAR
  • Er, Android apps. Anyone at Cakewalk heard of them?
2014/05/12 18:42:48
EezyP
Will any of these funky apps...
"ScratchPad 1.2 for iPad is now available for just $1.99 on the Apple App Store! http://scratchpad.cakewalk.com/"
...ever appear for non-Apple devotees? 
Seems ironic that a brand started from a Windows-only stance (hence my adoption of it many years ago!) only seems to support/promote mobile apps running on its chief rival's hardware.
Perplexed.  Please excuse me if I'm missing something obvious. 
2014/05/12 18:50:13
Pragi
 Not that I´m an expert in pad questions, but one think I read about
android :  The latency of pad´s running android and atom processors is that high (20 ms and more),
that sequencer etc did not work nearly good . The apple devices and apps deliver much better latencies.
If I remember right, the android apps aso are not designed for music-production,
but the I-pads and -apps
Don´t know if that helps.
Pragi
2014/05/12 18:54:48
Sacalait
I have to agree with you completely EezyP!  I have an iPad and an Android Dell Venue 8.  I've found NOTHING for the Dell tablet.  I'd love to see something like V-Control for Androids.  I guess it's out of Cakewalks hands but I hope they're encouraging some developers.  At the end of the day, I'm actually looking for tablets to be powerful enough to run Windows AND apps like Sonar.  I'm guessing that's still a couple years down the pike. 
2014/05/12 19:08:10
doriginal
FL Studio has a remote that you can use with their system and it is available for the android. you are able to move faders and knobs. Oh yeah, and it is free. We definitely should have something like that for Sonar. 
2014/05/12 19:25:15
Anderton
I've talked to a bunch of other developers over the years about Android. There seems to be two basic issues:
 
1. As pointed out above, latency. You can't really do real-time music apps on Android, which is what CW has done for iOS. Sonoma Wire Works came up with a low latency solution, but apparently it was never adopted.
2. iOS is very standardized. There are many variants on the Android platform, so it's difficult to come up with universal solutions and QC them. I have an Android and there are tons of programs that simply won't work with my particular phone. If you look at reviews in Google Play, you'll see "Works with this phone," "Doesn't work with this phone, uninstalled," "Worked until recent update," etc.
 
I doubt Cakewalk would want to divert resources away from their core programs to get into that particular quagmire. That said, I do know they are aware of Android and following its progress. There are always rumors that a more real-time Android OS is "just around the corner," but I've been hearing that for a couple years. 
2014/05/12 20:07:47
garrigus
Sacalait
I'd love to see something like V-Control for Androids.



Try the app called TouchDAW.
 
The folks at Image Line also have FL Studio Mobile for Android.
 
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2014/05/12 23:30:08
Glyn Barnes
IKMultimedia are one of the companies most into tablet/phone music applications. They also say the latency is too great with Android, hence they only produce for IOS.
2014/05/13 10:18:38
AT
I think the answer is does Cakewalk want to put money into the major OS/ platform or come up w/ a product for a smaller OS w/ technical problems to boot.  Seems to me Cakewalk made the right choice for the iPad - and Windows too now that I think about it.
 
That being said, I'm waiting for an expanded scratchpad app for my windows tablet and touchscreen.   I think Noel said they were thinking about that option, and now Craig hints at something exciting coming this way.  You can tell me the secret Craig - I won't squeal.  Well, maybe w/ delight if it is a big scratchpad.
 
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2014/05/13 11:19:39
Anderton
AT
 
 I think Noel said they were thinking about that option, and now Craig hints at something exciting coming this way.  You can tell me the secret Craig - I won't squeal.  Well, maybe w/ delight if it is a big scratchpad.
 



Please don't read anything additional into "That said, I do know they are aware of Android and following its progress." Take it at face value. If they are working on something, I'm not aware of it.
2014/05/13 11:33:26
Splat
EezyP
Seems ironic that a brand started from a Windows-only stance (hence my adoption of it many years ago!) only seems to support/promote mobile apps running on its chief rival's hardware.


If I were to take that statement to a logical conclusion then I would be asking for apps to run on Windows mobile devices not Android.
 
Personally I don't need any android apps other than TouchDAW. Far more interested in the PC based core product.
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