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2014/05/11 18:53:39
cuitlahac
I am assuming that you are asking about monitor isolation pads?  If so, I'm not sure that I would buy them right away.  Get used to your new monitors, try them on your desk, on isolated stands, or suspended from the ceiling(?!).... there are a lot of alternatives to  experiment with.  Convince yourself that you really need isolation pads first before you spend that kind of cash on something that might not make much of an audible difference.  I have my monitors placed on the top shelf of my desk (at ear level) and the foam rubber pad provided by the manufacturer works very well.  If you work at high SPL's you might have more of a need for them but I think that most of us only occasionally venture into the +120db SPL range....I don't know about you, but I keep monitoring levels at "reasonable levels" to prevent long term hearing loss! 
2014/05/11 19:03:18
HELLYA
I love that forum...
 
2014/05/11 19:48:19
lawajava
Auralex pads are a good choice.

I have three comments on this at the moment.

a. Monitor choices appear to be very personal and it appears from comments I read that folks often recommend the ones they personally have chosen.

b. I know room size is something everyone brings up, but I'm partial to 8" versions unless you're in a cramped space. There's just more chance to hear bass even at very low volumes.

c. I know Craig is at Gibson so he needs to sound neutral. But I happen to have 8" KRK VXTs as well. Probably other 8" monitors from other makers are great as well. My one regret now with my KRKs is that I don't presently have enough funds to get a second pair. I have the KRK VXT monitors facing me where I mix and work on music. It sounds awesome. I would love to have another pair facing a different direction so that when I want to play back music for others in a different part of the room they could hear what I hear, which is pretty amazing.
2014/05/11 22:20:51
Anderton
lawajava
I know Craig is at Gibson so he needs to sound neutral. But I happen to have 8" KRK VXTs as well. Probably other 8" monitors from other makers are great as well. My one regret now with my KRKs is that I don't presently have enough funds to get a second pair. I have the KRK VXT monitors facing me where I mix and work on music. It sounds awesome. I would love to have another pair facing a different direction so that when I want to play back music for others in a different part of the room they could hear what I hear, which is pretty amazing.



Thanks for saying what I wanted to say but felt I shouldn't. The VXTs are indeed amazing, especially in terms of having mixes translate. My one regret is I didn't know about them sooner. Ditto the KNS8400 headphones, but better late than never.
2014/05/11 22:26:46
lawajava
Anderton
Ditto the KNS8400 headphones, but better late than never.



I have a couple pairs of those as well.  I still have several other kinds of headphones, but these are the ones that work for me in terms of hearing what I need.  They are also the most comfortable.  So since I've had them the others have been relegated to the drawers.
2014/05/12 00:15:29
Cactus Music
Craig, it would be nice if profit margins were 40% and 50% and I guess your just making a point, but the sad reality of the music retail business is more like 5-20%,  and that's on a good day. The web store retail people can sell stuff at low margins because they don't have a storefront to run. This is what is killing the small stores. I try and buy as much as possible from a real store. 
 
Any how if I needed new monitors I would stay with Yamaha because my mixes always translate over on all systems the first time around. I know the NMS 10's pisz people off, but for me they have done well. The newer HS series is what I would look at. 
2014/05/12 10:42:20
wgdevanna
HELLYA - Check out Mike Senior's Mixing Secrets for the Small Studio.  There are a couple of comprehensive chapters on monitors.  I have it on Kindle, but I don't see that it's available as a Kindle edition on Amazon right now.  It was published in 2011, so it's somewhat current.  Good luck with your selection. ~Gregg
Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with this publication in any way.  I only endorse this book because I found it educational.  My only source of income is from Physics....I only ever spend money on music...except I once made $35 for an Alchemy patch...lookout - IRS!
2014/05/12 12:17:51
bitflipper
Anderton
Good advice, but I don't necessarily agree with this:
 
<<You'll spot a potential candidate right away when you hear something in that recording that you'd never noticed before.>>
 
One of the largest variations with speakers is the smoothness of the midrange response. You might be hearing something you hadn't noticed before because there's a bump at that frequency.

Good point, Craig. But it was a major factor in leading me to choose ADAM over Genelec, Dynaudio and KRK, which were all in the running the last time I upgraded speakers (8+ years ago). They had the best midrange detail and the cleanest-sounding kicks and bass. 
 
The first challenge was doing a proper audition in a noisy music store. Fortunately, Seattle has a few pro-audio retailers that can provide a quiet(er) environment to listen in. I went to Pacific Pro Audio, where the people were knowledgeable, matched Sweetwater's price, and threw in some Mopads.
 
Someday I'll have to give the KRKs another listen. The last time I heard them (the 6's, not the 8's) I did not like them at all. But to be fair it was in a noisy big-box music store. I also listened to M-Audio, Event and Dynaudio speakers there; it was the latter that impressed me most, but perhaps only because they're able to get very loud and still be clean.
2014/05/12 14:35:07
dubdisciple
I currently use Behringer Truth B2030A that I basicaly traded an old sampler for. They are surprisingly better than I thought they would be and not as bass heavy as similar models by KRK. With that said they do lack a bit in the low bass range but that's ok since I end up mastering at the studio anyway. The midrange and highs are more than decent for my purposes and most of my work (video production) involves mostly midrangev adjustments. For budget conscious folks the Truth series is worth a look and I don't say that about many Behringer products.
2014/05/12 14:51:19
...wicked
I've used KRK RP5's for a billion years. I don't have a sub and sometimes miss that since I need to go reference my low end on some other systems before calling a mix "done" but otherwise have no complaints with them.
 
I did my listening shootout at Guitar Center in their closed speaker room with a handful of CDs I know very well (Tom Waits, Massive Attack, and some of my own stuff just for reference). Since it was material I was very familiar with it was relatively easy to determine which speakers sounded the most balanced. I think I tweaked the high-end by 1db once I set them up in my studio.
 
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