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2014/05/08 17:32:59
aglewis723
Hello Everyone,
 
I wanted to see if anyone has any input on this.   It seems like softsynths (bass patches), I have to do a lot of severe EQ HPF work in order to remove unwanted frequencies.   I don't understand, if I plug in my hardware synths and play bass patches, no problem.  No need for this intense heavy HPF filtering, but for the softsynths, wow... very bass heavy.
 
Anyone ever notice this?
 
Thanks,
Adam
2014/05/08 18:07:30
fif4lifefif
Hm, I've never had the opportunity to work with hardware synths, so I can't speak to that, but I don't usually have to apply HPF for reasons other than mixing and as an effect. 

Is it possible that your input chain is, for whatever reason, attenuating the lower frequencies from your hardware synths, causing you to believe that the culprit is instead the softsynths? Could you upload a sample?
2014/05/08 18:17:53
aglewis723
Hi there,
 
Thanks for the reply.   
 
My signal chain is DRY.  These are just tracks coming right from the softsynths right into a master bus with no effects.
 
I just recorded 4 bars of something very basic with only 3 instruments:  drums, bass, pads.  The drums come from Arturia Spark, Bass comes from Jupiter-8, and pads from FM-8 (all softsynths).
 
I chose presets and did not modify them.  You would think a few very simple presets wouldn't sound so bass-heavy.

Here is that sample:

https://soundcloud.com/onlyroomforrobots/sound
 
Thank You,
Adam
2014/05/08 19:51:35
Lynn
Many bass patches are developed for dance music to be played in clubs and over subwoofers.  The bass patches in Dim Pro don't have this problem so much, especially the acoustic basses.  You may want to audition some different soft synths.
2014/05/08 20:10:56
John
I wonder if it could be an octave issue? Your hardware synths may be at a different octave. 
2014/05/08 21:37:53
millzy
To me the kick sounded a little bass heavy but the other patches sounded fine. Are your monitors a little bass heavy?
2014/05/08 22:53:40
sharke
Softsynth patches are usually designed to be as frequency rich as possible so that they sound awesome when you're flicking through them (especially when you're demoing the synth with a view to buying it). That's why they tend to be drenched in reverb as well. It's not necessarily a bad thing - think of it like raw material from which you'll carve out the frequencies you need.

As to why your hardware synths don't seem to suffer from the same problem, I can only hazard a guess that they're designed with live performance in mind, and you're not likely to have a parametric EQ in front of you on stage to carve frequencies out. Whereas a soft synth is more likely to be used in a studio environment where such tweaking is acceptable.
2014/05/09 11:33:23
CJaysMusic
 It seems like softsynths (bass patches), I have to do a lot of severe EQ HPF work in order to remove unwanted frequencies. I don't understand, if I plug in my hardware synths and play bass patches, no problem.

Its because who ever wrote those patches, wrote them bass heavy. You are comparing different patches from different synths, so they will never sound the same, unless the patch is written the same exact way.
 
It like me cooking a steak medium rare, but you prefer it medium. To each their own. Preset patches are made by someone who has there own personal preferences. You are comparing 2 different patches made by 2 different people, of course they will sound different
 
I can play different patches of violins form 2 different sythns and one will have higher frewqunciers than the other oenj. Its natural and its expected behavior.
 
Cj
 
2014/05/09 12:05:05
thebiglongy
Nothing sounds bass heavy on this end, I have a feeling it is either your monitors or something to do with your room and problematic frequencies resonating ;)
Sounds fine in my room and on my setup.
2014/05/09 12:09:10
Scoot
CJaysMusic
 
It like me cooking a steak medium rare, but you prefer it medium. To each their own. Preset patches are made by someone who has there own personal preferences.
 


CJaysMusic
Just like in your heart, when it is flat lined, its dead!! Your audio no longer lives. Its 6 feet under and turned to ash.

 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/How-to-Save-Guitar-Tracks-after-using-a-DI-like-Line-6-HD500-m3036779.aspx#3036811
CJaysMusic
It is like demolishing a house to it's foundation because you got 1 small drop of white paint on the floor when you where paining the house and all you needed to do is get a paper towel and wipe it up

http://forum.cakewalk.com/what-laptop-spec-m3035818.aspx#3036830
 
Do all your post come with a free analogy CJ
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