In pre X3 golbal snap has always been exactly that. GLOBAL. When turning global snap off, nothing snapped anywhere in Sonar. I often used this in PRV when nudging notes back and forth and changing note lengths to give the performance the right feel.
 
Turning off global snap in X3 does NOT however stop the notes in PRV from snapping. The snap icons react exactly as in X2 and get greyed out even though the notes still snap to the (now greyed out) value set in PRV..
I sent a problem repport to Cakewalk and described the behaviour. A few days later I got this mail:
 

Cakewalk Problem Reporter
Subject: CWBRN-20814, Turning off global snap still snaps notes in piano roll
 
Hello Samuel Lidström,
The status of your problem report has updated to "As Intended" with the following notes:
The behavior you are describing is as intended and is not an error in the application.
If you need assistance with a feature please contact our support team at....

 
When I got this mail I thought "Ah.. Okay.. Then maybe there's a separate shortcut to turn off the snap in PRV.." ..I searched for this in preferences but came to the conclusion that there's not a shortcut for this anywhere and I couldn't find a function for this to bind a key to either..
 
How can the intention be that the global snap shouldn't really be global and that you have to use the mouse to turn off snap in PRV!? The word workflow is a word Cakewalk uses a lot now a days.. How does workflow benefin from this intended change??
 
I couldn't find anything searching the online user manual either, but I really really hope I'm just missing something here..

If the shortcut you're talking about is "n" then it still works fine here. Tried it with both Smart Grid on and off, in a project created in X2 and also in the Normal project template in X3 (I'm on X3b base version).

'n' works here as well.

Okay?..
So. just to be sure:
 
When you have the independent Piano Roll view Snap resolution activated, the notes in the Piano roll view doesn't snap at all after you've hit 'n' and turned off the global snap? ..
 
Because 'n' works for me too, to turn off snap in the track view. It's in the piano roll view the notes still snap even after global snap is turned off..
 
I'm sorry to repeat myself, but I just find it so hard to believe that Sonar would act this way only on my system.. =/

Loptec
In pre X3 golbal snap has always been exactly that. GLOBAL. When turning global snap off, nothing snapped anywhere in Sonar. I often used this in PRV when nudging notes back and forth and changing note lengths to give the performance the right feel.
 
Turning off global snap in X3 does NOT however stop the notes in PRV from snapping. The snap icons react exactly as in X2 and get greyed out even though the notes still snap to the (now greyed out) value set in PRV..
I sent a problem repport to Cakewalk and described the behaviour. A few days later I got this mail:
 

The PRV snap is independent from global snap. The is helpful for users who need very specific snap settings for the PRV exclusively.  For most editing jobs the follow settings will likely work best for you based on the information you gave.
 
- Set PRV to follow snap setting (PRV | View | Grid Resolution)
- Set the global snap to smart snap (Right-Click the drop down)
- I always like to enable grid lines in the PRV because this will display the current snap settings 
 
Now for most edits based on your zoom level you'll get different snap resolutions. Closer for more surgical edits and further for rough or large edits. This works for a lot of things but of course not everything...
 
Another way to control snap is to use the secondary global snap setting by holding the [N] key. This by default snaps to 1 sample but could be set to anything. This is handy for making edits that are not the most common. After releasing the [N] key the snap module will automatically return to the previous settings.
 
If you feel that having a keybinding for the PRV specific snap would be helpful I encourage you to submit a feature request to the link below.
http://www.cakewalk.com/support/contact/featurerequest.aspx 

+1 for making PRV snap "keybindable" (available for keyboard shortcuts).
 
Snap is one of the most frequently modified options for sequencing, everything snap-related should be keybindable, I'd say. :)

Lance Riley [Cakewalk]

Loptec
In pre X3 golbal snap has always been exactly that. GLOBAL. When turning global snap off, nothing snapped anywhere in Sonar. I often used this in PRV when nudging notes back and forth and changing note lengths to give the performance the right feel.
 
Turning off global snap in X3 does NOT however stop the notes in PRV from snapping. The snap icons react exactly as in X2 and get greyed out even though the notes still snap to the (now greyed out) value set in PRV..
I sent a problem repport to Cakewalk and described the behaviour. A few days later I got this mail:
 

The PRV snap is independent from global snap. The is helpful for users who need very specific snap settings for the PRV exclusively.  For most editing jobs the follow settings will likely work best for you based on the information you gave.
 
- Set PRV to follow snap setting (PRV | View | Grid Resolution)
- Set the global snap to smart snap (Right-Click the drop down)
- I always like to enable grid lines in the PRV because this will display the current snap settings 
 
Now for most edits based on your zoom level you'll get different snap resolutions. Closer for more surgical edits and further for rough or large edits. This works for a lot of things but of course not everything...
 
Another way to control snap is to use the secondary global snap setting by holding the [N] key. This by default snaps to 1 sample but could be set to anything. This is handy for making edits that are not the most common. After releasing the [N] key the snap module will automatically return to the previous settings.
 
If you feel that having a keybinding for the PRV specific snap would be helpful I encourage you to submit a feature request to the link below.
http://www.cakewalk.com/support/contact/featurerequest.aspx 

Thanks, Lance Riley for replying!
 
Yeah, I know the individual snap setting in Piano Roll View is independent from global snap in the sense that the resolution can be set to a different value. I use this all the time, often editing notes in PRV with 16th note resolution and having the global snap resolution set to one bar.
 
I'm a MIDI-editor nerd and often wants to turn off the snap setting in Piano Roll View to be able to just slightly move notes and change the lengths of them to get the "right feel" to the performance (as I described in my first post).
 
In X2 this was possible with the 'n'-key, because this turned off all snap in Sonar. And I really see no reason why 'n' shouldn't turn off all snap in Sonar. Why would anyone hit 'n' to turn off global snap just to continue wanting to edit notes with snap on in PRV?
 
My big big issue here really is just this: I want to be able to turn off snap in Piano Roll View with a shortcut, just as I could do in X2, but I can't :/ ... Editing notes in pianoroll is a huge part of how I work in Sonar and having to use the mouse to hit that independent snap setting icon in PRV every time I want to move notes freely is really time consuming..
 
What I really would want isn't ANOTHER shortcut to turn off snap in PRV .. 'n' is a great shortcut. Why can't 'n' just work as it has always done; to turn off snap all together?? =/
What was wrong with this behaviour in the first place?

Isn't it the case that with the current system, you can easily switch between the PRV & Track View and maintain different Snap settings for either view?
 
Which if this is the case, means you can drag clips around to say, a resolution of a measure, but go back into the PRV and have your notes snapping to something with a lot more resolution?

This is a bug as far as I'm concerned. Per the X3 Reference Guide, page 740:
 
"The Piano Roll view always obeys the global Snap to Grid on/off setting, even if you specify an
independent snap resolution in the Piano Roll view. The Snap settings in the Piano Roll view only
apply to the snap resolution, not whether Snap to Grid is on or off."

It's certainly not behaving that way.
 
Snap in PRV affects note placement as well as grid resolution, even with Global Snap set to measure I can snap down to 128th notes.