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  • [Fixed] Turning snap on/off in PRV, only possible with mouse click (p.2)
2013/10/24 17:46:12
brundlefly
I think the OP is only concerned about the On/Off status. Everything else pretty much works as advertised except for Grid Follows Snap not updating dynamically, which goes back a ways.
2013/10/24 19:26:36
Loptec
brundlefly
This is a bug as far as I'm concerned. Per the X3 Reference Guide, page 740:
 
"The Piano Roll view always obeys the global Snap to Grid on/off setting, even if you specify an
independent snap resolution in the Piano Roll view. The Snap settings in the Piano Roll view only
apply to the snap resolution, not whether Snap to Grid is on or off."


Great job finding this in the X3 Reference Guide, Dave! This really shows that it actually IS a bug (which I suspected and was the reason I sent in the problem report....!)
 
And you're absolutely correct in assuming that it's only the On/Off status I'm taking about. I'm amazed that you're the only one that seems to understand this, even though it's in this thread's headline:
 
This thread's headline
Turning snap on/off in PRV, only possible with mouse click - Cakewalk says: "As intended"

 
...In other words; this is NOT as intended, Cakewalk. Please change the status of that problem report I sent to you.
2013/10/25 08:58:52
icontakt
Loptec
I'm amazed that you're the only one that seems to understand this, even though it's in this thread's headline:

 
Well, it's not amazing that I didn't understand your post correctly but it IS amazing the baker didn't. :-)
 
I've never had the independent PRV snap resolution activated because I set 1/16 to the primary snap and Whole to the secondary snap, and this combination can achive most of what I want to do. However, reading your post I realized I should probably have the feature activated because I mostly move clips by measure in the TV and work on the 1/16 grid resolution in the PRV.
 
Since the bug won't be fixed soon, I suggest that you try using the num pad to nudge notes left and right. Nudge works without turning off the global snap, so you won't have to hit "n" anymore.
 
 
2013/10/25 11:26:32
icontakt
cyberzip
+1 for making PRV snap "keybindable" (available for keyboard shortcuts).
 
Snap is one of the most frequently modified options for sequencing, everything snap-related should be keybindable, I'd say. :)





 
2013/10/25 11:45:22
brundlefly
Yes, PRV snap resolution settings are bindable, but not Enable/Disable or MIDI landmarks or Markers.
2013/10/25 12:08:32
icontakt
Oh, I see. At least Enable/Disable should be keybindable, if the "n" key bug continues to be "As intended."
2013/10/25 12:10:16
brundlefly
Exactly.
2013/10/25 13:02:47
Loptec
Yeah. I find it very strange that the bakers can't seem to understand that this actually is a bug.. I explain it's all about the on/off status in every post I make and still they try and explain to me that "there's a separate snap setting in PRV for a reason" ... -.-
 
... well, well.. I really hope they pop in here again some time and don't take for granted I'm just an inexperience user that have misunderstood something, but actually try and understand what this thread is all about..
 
While I'm waiting for this bug to be fixed I thought I'd make keybindings for the PRV snap settings 1/16 (which I use the most) and 1/128, to at least ALMOST get the "no snap" setting I want.
 
Doing this I found another bug(?).. :P (a very small one though, but anyway..)
The function PRV Snap 1/128 Note doesn't really give you this resolution. It gives you 1/64 triplets. .. I'm guessing it's as intended though, so I'll let it be..
2013/10/25 13:21:04
brundlefly
Loptec
Doing this I found another bug(?).. :P (a very small one though, but anyway..)
The function PRV Snap 1/128 Note doesn't really give you this resolution. It gives you 1/64 triplets. .. I'm guessing it's as intended though, so I'll let it be..



 
I'm not seeing that. 1/128 gives 32 divisions per quarter as expected, vs. 24 for 64th trips.
2013/10/25 13:54:21
Loptec
brundlefly
Loptec
Doing this I found another bug(?).. :P (a very small one though, but anyway..)
The function PRV Snap 1/128 Note doesn't really give you this resolution. It gives you 1/64 triplets. .. I'm guessing it's as intended though, so I'll let it be..



 
I'm not seeing that. 1/128 gives 32 divisions per quarter as expected, vs. 24 for 64th trips.




oh.. When using the shortcut bound to PRV 1/128 you actually get this resolution and the resolution label in PRV also says this? =/
 
I can't even see the functions PRV Snap 1/64 Triplet Note or the PRV Snap 1/128 Triplet Note in the Keyboard Shortcuts - Function window.. =/
 
..and when binding a shortcut to 1/128 it gives me 1/64 Triplets when I use the shortcut.. :/
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