abacab

kennywtelejazz
 

abacab
Just get Reason Essentials for the sampler.  This came up in a recent thread with Craig Anderton that was titled something like "Sonar needs a sampler".  Then rewire RE to Sonar...

abacab,
Say , I remember reading that post in the  "Sonar needs a sampler"  thread ....
Do I actually need to do all of that just to get a sampler ? what about Structure .. 
thanks,
 

Hey AIR buddy, I think that Structure is a fine sampler, if you are either cool with the factory library, or have already recorded your own samples as .wav files.  Same with Transformer, if you already have samples in the bag you can do a lot with them.
 
I think the workflow thing that we are missing here is being able to record live samples and mangle them in real time.
 
I watched this video on Reason Essentials and I think that this is the missing link
 
Sample playback loaders vs. live sampling ...
 
Live Sampling in Reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TidO_m4n364
 
Reason Micro Tutorial - Live Sampling 101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZp4ihGyrpM
 
https://www.propellerhead...ason/instruments/nn-xt
 
I gotta say, it looks cool.  nn-xt is included with essentials ...

abacab ,
 
Wow nice find
Having the ability to record directly into the Sampler and editing the Sample right then and there is Awesome ..
That feature could turn out to be a real game-changer in and of itself ...
My two opposing "working brain cells"  are in the middle of a marathon session of  playing rock paper scissors ..
The winner gets to decide if we are gonna spring for this one or not 
 
thanks ,
 
Kenny

kennywtelejazz


abacab ,
 
Wow nice find
Having the ability to record directly into the Sampler and editing the Sample right then and there is Awesome ..
That feature could turn out to be a real game-changer in and of itself ...
My two opposing "working brain cells"  are in the middle of a marathon session of  playing rock paper scissors ..
The winner gets to decide if we are gonna spring for this one or not 
 
thanks ,
 
Kenny

It does look sweet.  I also found a free sampler plugin that can do direct recording, the TX16Wx by CWITEC.  But so far I can't get the audio input to connect in Sonar.   It can do everything else that you would need. 
 
But get this, it works in Reaper!  I too have been demoing Reaper lately. So go check it out with your new Reaper http://www.tx16wx.com/  
 
Not looking to jump into a new DAW yet or anything, but just playing, and learning.  I like how Reaper handles audio and midi tracks with routing as well as plugins.  It must have something to do with the way that Reaper defines tracks, or rather seems to treat them all equally.  Same with plugins.
 
The TX16Wx is a VST instrument by definition, yet the audio input is exposed in Reaper.  In Sonar apparently, a VST plug must be of the FX flavor to show it's audio input to Sonar's routing scheme.  I have tried putting TX16Wx in a Sonar FX bin, as suggested, but so far it is a dead end for the signal path when I do so. 
 
Well anyway, it seems that Sonar does a lot very well, but there are a few features that some other software does that Sonar may lack.  So I guess the decision for workflow is it better to jump around several applications to get a few more tools that speed things up, or maybe to provide a bit more inspiration?
 
So right now, for live sampling I am thinking maybe Reaper + TX16Wx, or Reason Essentials with NN-XT.
 
And for chord and arranger tracks I am looking at the new Cubase Elements 9 ...
 
Happy New Year!
 
Cheers

abacab

kennywtelejazz


abacab ,
 
Wow nice find
Having the ability to record directly into the Sampler and editing the Sample right then and there is Awesome ..
That feature could turn out to be a real game-changer in and of itself ...
My two opposing "working brain cells"  are in the middle of a marathon session of  playing rock paper scissors ..
The winner gets to decide if we are gonna spring for this one or not 
 
thanks ,
 
Kenny

It does look sweet.  I also found a free sampler plugin that can do direct recording, the TX16Wx by CWITEC.  But so far I can't get the audio input to connect in Sonar.   It can do everything else that you would need. 
 
But get this, it works in Reaper!  I too have been demoing Reaper lately. So go check it out with your new Reaper http://www.tx16wx.com/  
 
Not looking to jump into a new DAW yet or anything, but just playing, and learning.  I like how Reaper handles audio and midi tracks with routing as well as plugins.  It must have something to do with the way that Reaper defines tracks, or rather seems to treat them all equally.  Same with plugins.
 
The TX16Wx is a VST instrument by definition, yet the audio input is exposed in Reaper.  In Sonar apparently, a VST plug must be of the FX flavor to show it's audio input to Sonar's routing scheme.  I have tried putting TX16Wx in a Sonar FX bin, as suggested, but so far it is a dead end for the signal path when I do so. 
 
Well anyway, it seems that Sonar does a lot very well, but there are a few features that some other software does that Sonar may lack.  So I guess the decision for workflow is it better to jump around several applications to get a few more tools that speed things up, or maybe to provide a bit more inspiration?
 
So right now, for live sampling I am thinking maybe Reaper + TX16Wx, or Reason Essentials with NN-XT.
 
And for chord and arranger tracks I am looking at the new Cubase Elements 9 ...
 
Happy New Year!
 
Cheers

abacab ,
 
I finally got back here to say thanks for posting this 
 
Kenny

kennywtelejazz

abacab

kennywtelejazz


abacab ,
 
Wow nice find
Having the ability to record directly into the Sampler and editing the Sample right then and there is Awesome ..
That feature could turn out to be a real game-changer in and of itself ...
My two opposing "working brain cells"  are in the middle of a marathon session of  playing rock paper scissors ..
The winner gets to decide if we are gonna spring for this one or not 
 
thanks ,
 
Kenny

It does look sweet.  I also found a free sampler plugin that can do direct recording, the TX16Wx by CWITEC.  But so far I can't get the audio input to connect in Sonar.   It can do everything else that you would need. 
 
But get this, it works in Reaper!  I too have been demoing Reaper lately. So go check it out with your new Reaper http://www.tx16wx.com/  
 
Not looking to jump into a new DAW yet or anything, but just playing, and learning.  I like how Reaper handles audio and midi tracks with routing as well as plugins.  It must have something to do with the way that Reaper defines tracks, or rather seems to treat them all equally.  Same with plugins.
 
The TX16Wx is a VST instrument by definition, yet the audio input is exposed in Reaper.  In Sonar apparently, a VST plug must be of the FX flavor to show it's audio input to Sonar's routing scheme.  I have tried putting TX16Wx in a Sonar FX bin, as suggested, but so far it is a dead end for the signal path when I do so. 
 
Well anyway, it seems that Sonar does a lot very well, but there are a few features that some other software does that Sonar may lack.  So I guess the decision for workflow is it better to jump around several applications to get a few more tools that speed things up, or maybe to provide a bit more inspiration?
 
So right now, for live sampling I am thinking maybe Reaper + TX16Wx, or Reason Essentials with NN-XT.
 
And for chord and arranger tracks I am looking at the new Cubase Elements 9 ...
 
Happy New Year!
 
Cheers

abacab ,
 
I finally got back here to say thanks for posting this 
 
Kenny

Hey!  When I get the time I may post up a thread in the Software Forum with some details for a how-to setup TX16Wx in Reaper for a live sample session.  I used the included TX16Wx quick start guide, but was a little lost after recording the first sample.  It works, but the description on how to map the sample to the keyboard, etc. seemed to skip a few steps.  Had to dig into the main manual to sort it all out.
 
The biggest difference that I see with using Reaper for live sampling is that when you open the Reaper routing dialogue for a track (with an instrument such as TX16Wx) is that there is an option for "add new receive".  When you look at that menu, you will see everything in the project that can send audio.  So you can pick any receive that is from any track with an audio clip, or an external audio input.  Cool!  Sampling enabled!  I'm puzzled why you can't do this in Sonar?