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2014/05/08 01:39:56
Steve_Karl
Living Room Rocker
I would submit this as a bug.
 
Kind regards,
 
Living Room Rocker



Thanks LRR,


Yes. It might be a bug, since 4.0.2 always remembers to keep both hidden if that is how I set and save set them in 4.0.2.
... but that was 9 or so versions back,
...so that's why I wanted CW to weigh in also about the possibility of it being "as intended" even if it was intended by someone 6 yrs. ago who wrote it into a previous version somewhere after 4.0.2.
 
 
2014/05/08 07:40:56
icontakt
Looks like the keyboard resizing bug has been present since version 5:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Drum-maps-in-PRV-Left-pane-keeps-resizing-m2961888.aspx
 
As for the Controller pane issue, a workaround can be found in this recent thread:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Workaround-Hide-Midi-Velocity-bars-completely-m3023102.aspx
 
2014/05/08 07:59:43
Grem
Thanks for pointing that out Tak. I was working on some stuff and was wondering why I didn't use ScreenSets more. It wasn't long before I remembered!
 
But I have to say, that with the present shortcut keys, I really am not missing ScreenSets. I found that I can set the PRV with a drum map, hit Shift+d, and it is full screen and can work well this way. When I'm done and want to go back to the TV, I just hit d and the PRV is out of the way. Hit d again, and the PRV returns just like I had it. No keyboard, no zoom problem, nothing but how I left it.
 
I also use this method to work with plugins.
 
I just wish I could find a way to toggle/tab through the Multidock Tabs.
2014/05/08 08:19:54
icontakt
Grem
Thanks for pointing that out Tak. I was working on some stuff and was wondering why I didn't use ScreenSets more. It wasn't long before I remembered!
 
But I have to say, that with the present shortcut keys, I really am not missing ScreenSets. I found that I can set the PRV with a drum map, hit Shift+d, and it is full screen and can work well this way. When I'm done and want to go back to the TV, I just hit d and the PRV is out of the way. Hit d again, and the PRV returns just like I had it. No keyboard, no zoom problem, nothing but how I left it.
 

 
Well, if you work with the full-size MultiDock you won't have this minor issue, but I leave 2-3 tracks visible above the PRV and I sometimes mistakenly hit D and Shift+D in the wrong order and it initializes the MultiDock height. Also, I sometimes change the height and width of the track headers or heavily zoom the track view several times during editing and if I want everything back to the layout I saved I just use the "Revert Current Screenset," which is very helpful (except for the very issue mentioned in the OP).
 
Grem
I just wish I could find a way to toggle/tab through the Multidock Tabs.


You just need to move your left hand and hit Ctrl+Shift+Left/Right Arrow keys on the right side of your keyboard.
2014/05/08 08:29:23
Grem
Jlien X
 
Grem
I just wish I could find a way to toggle/tab through the Multidock Tabs.


You just need to move your left hand and hit Ctrl+Shift+Left/Right Arrow keys on the right side of your keyboard.




Sweet!! Thanks for that! I have tried to find the keys to do this. I never thought to use those two keys!!
 
 
2014/05/08 09:15:16
rbowser
Grem...I have to say, that with the present shortcut keys, I really am not missing ScreenSets. I found that I can set the PRV with a drum map, hit Shift+d, and it is full screen and can work well this way. When I'm done and want to go back to the TV, I just hit d and the PRV is out of the way. Hit d again, and the PRV returns just like I had it. No keyboard, no zoom problem, nothing but how I left it...


That's basically what I'm doing.  Maybe my needs are simple, or maybe I'm still just working pretty much as I did in 8.5 without adapting my workflow in the way the X series is implying that I "should" work.

I'm not using screensets.  I have one basic screen with everything I need easily available.  I have PRV, Tempo, and sometimes Staff tabbed, ready to pop up with "D" whenever I want, but with a couple of tracks always visible above so I can simultaneously work with clips and the details of the clips i.e. MIDI data.  My second screen has the Console.  That populates my screens the same way I had them in 8.5, and re-sizing sections by dragging temporarily has long since been part of my routine.   My WizMouse makes anything instantly available without having to click in a given area to activate it.

When I open a project-in-progress, of course everything is just as I left it.  Every project uses the same set up, no aggravation of losing a view, because nothing was ever closed in the project, just temporarily collapsed.

Works for me!  I did set up some screensets, but they take too long to load, and unless I'm wanting something I rarely use, like Matrix, there's no advantage - It's just a slower way to get to what I already have set up.

Randy
 
 
2014/05/08 14:03:19
Steve_Karl
Jlien X
Looks like the keyboard resizing bug has been present since version 5:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Drum-maps-in-PRV-Left-pane-keeps-resizing-m2961888.aspx
 
As for the Controller pane issue, a workaround can be found in this recent thread:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Workaround-Hide-Midi-Velocity-bars-completely-m3023102.aspx
 


Thank you!
The work around is a satisfactory and tolerable compromise.


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