• SONAR
  • I'm Disapointed in X3 (p.2)
2013/10/25 13:14:28
Jackdied
This feature was one of the most special thing for workflow. I want it back too. 
2013/10/25 13:16:10
CJaysMusic
markyzno
minor gripe. X3 is the business.


For you its minor. For me and others its HUGE.  I used that feature daily in every project, now i cant. That is not minor. When they start taking things out little by little. It will add up in time and its likely that one of these little things will effect you in a big way some day
2013/10/25 13:21:36
Seth Kellogg [Cakewalk]
CJaysMusic
I filed a bug report because you cannot scroll the tracks(clips) up and down, to move and see only one track at the top of the Track View anymore. You where able to do this in all the other 12 Sonar versions, including X1 and X2, Sonar 8,7,6, 5, 4 and on and on...
 
I got an email yesterday saying this was "Intended Behavior and I need to file a feature request."." So they 'intended' to take away this feature?? and now I have to file a feature request for something that has been in Sonar for over 10 years!!
 
They also 'intended' to take away you from seeing 4 sends in the console view! Whats next, are they going to take away the ability to scroll left and right?
 
Cakewalk, Upgrade instead of Downgrade!!We pay for upgrades, not downgrades!!!
 
Yours Truly,
CJ



Previously, as most people know, scrolling in the track pane would snap to the top of a track. X3 introduced fractional scrolling, as gswitz stated, to smooth out the UI experience. This 'snap' scrolling introduced many undesirable UI and editing behaviors in regards to automation/take lanes, auto-zoom, track zoom, quick grouping, audio snap, editing, etc.

There's 2 alternative work flows that will allow you to have the same behavior as before.

1) Adjust the Track pane to limit UI real-estate to be the size of one track. You'll then be able to scroll to the last track. You could even set it up where the Bus Pane limits the size and you can toggle it via hotkey.
2) Pull up the track manager and select the tracks which you want to see.

The track pane is working as intended so it is not a bug. That is why it was recommended to submit a feature request.
 
brundlefly
CJ, are you talking about how vertical zoom now jumps the view up to show (and zoom)  track 1? No way that's "intended". It's on my list to report.
 
Dave


 
This issue should be fixed in the next patch. I just regressed it 
2013/10/25 14:28:59
gswitz
I wonder if the developers would share why they made the change. It would be nice to know.
2013/10/25 14:32:46
gswitz
Thanks Seth! I appreciate you chiming in.
2013/10/25 14:46:05
lfm
If to wish something here - it would be to have trackview a little context sensitive zones, like the right 10% (or 100 pixels) of track view would react to vertical only and the rest horizontal reaction.
 
This goes for all actions with mousewheel and combination with key.
Some more options in settings allowing this would be swell.
 
Reaper also acts differently when using mousewheel over track panels and in the track view clips part. Very easy to navigate without thinking at all.
 
Current operation forced in both directlons simulateneously is not useful - not to me anyway. No way I can foresee what will happend.
 
 
2013/10/25 14:48:52
John T
Not arguing with the use case, just curious: what do you use this for?
2013/10/25 14:58:27
gswitz
Lfm, Google 'cakewalk feature request' and enter your request through their official sight.
2013/10/25 15:10:04
lfm
gswitz
Lfm, Google 'cakewalk feature request' and enter your request through their official sight.

Thanks, but I think the punch is heavier if I can refer to a link with much love for the idea.
 
Navigation stuff was up anyway, I mean.
2013/10/25 15:13:18
John
I am having trouble visualizing this as a problem. To be frank I haven't noticed a change. If someone would post a short vid screen capture of this as a problem it would help. 
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