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John T
Well, different things matter to different people.

I was more just curious of why it would make a difference especially to the point of being disappointed in X3 in general over it.  I'm not against it or anything.
 
Dan

Don't get me wrong Dan, I'm definitely not disappointed with X3. I know you probably didn't mean me. I'll show you the thing that I'm talking about.
 
Keith: Arrows are cool, but if I'm editing with my mouse and doing my thing, I have to move to the arrows where as my finger is right on my mouse scroll. I's like pressing shift while scrolling...it's another thing that we have to do that was "right there" before, know what I mean?
 
Like I said in my first response, it's quite obvious I need to change the way I work to accept the change that was made. It's just super hard to not be able to scroll one click and see what I expect to see after doing this since Cake (insert version). We installed X3 on our work system down at my other studio. I didn't say anything to my chief engineer.....I just let him do his thing. 30 minutes after install he calls me and says "dude, I can't scroll up and down like I used to?!"
 
I know the people like me are probably too few for you to implement an option. I'm just finding it really difficult to break out of this. :(
 
Here's what I mean: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4909348/ScrollProblems.wmv
 
-Danny

Danny you sure did a great job of explaining things.  I still don't get the problem with CJ though. 
 
BTW I can see why you want it the way it was Danny. 
 
I'm not all that bothered by it. I am a bit bothered by the loss of maximizing a track to fill the entire area by double clicking one the header.  

John
I'm not all that bothered by it. I am a bit bothered by the loss of maximizing a track to fill the entire area by double clicking one the header.  

? That one hasn't changed here.

I understand cjs need. Frankly, I think he can be accommodated. Cakewalk has provided work arounds.

In the future, it would be nice to have the freedom to scroll as you like. Managing real estate is critical to productivity that's what the x series is all about. I also think you should be able to choose your scrolling method for your mouse wheel.

I think that Cake underestimated the impact to its hard core customer base.

For those using touch, I think this is less of a bother, but still... Efficiency is paramount and this is effecting it.

It could be due to Windows 8.1 Brundlefly. 
 
 

After watching the video I totally agree with Danny even though I don't use the feature as demoed.
 
Many years ago, while I was still a business apps developer, if there is any change in the user interface, we make it a point to have an option to check / unchecked these U.I changes - with the default unchecked so existing user base may use it unchanged. Only clients that asked for the feature will have to turn it on.
 
The system ends up with pages of (complicated) setup screens. But if this was not done, we have hundreds of users jumping on us complaining why it's all different. And they hate any U.I changes when it affected their work flow, especially business apps dealing with front end cash collection. We've learnt our lessons and we choose the U.I setup way.
 
So there you have it. It's either a system that preserve old workings,etc.. but ended up with pages of setups (for U.I preference) or a system that implements the latest toolkit features without setup or with partial setup.

John
It could be due to Windows 8.1 Brundlefly. 
 
 

That's still working for me in 8.1

Danny, if you have all of your buses the same size and one bus fills the bus pane like in your vid, the up and down arrows on the keyboard will scroll one track at a time, so that's an option.

Danny Danzi
 
Keith: Arrows are cool, but if I'm editing with my mouse and doing my thing, I have to move to the arrows where as my finger is right on my mouse scroll. I's like pressing shift while scrolling...it's another thing that we have to do that was "right there" before, know what I mean?

Yeah, know what you mean. I think software designers (I've been one myself) can sometimes forget that "better" doesn't always trump muscle memory.

Of course, there's a "new users / old users" consideration there, which I know from old threads Cakewalk DO think carefully about. I dunno, I think progress means that we don't always keep everything we had. In this, I disagree with CJ's view that there's a "downgrade" here. That said, I'm sympathetic to his frustration; when a way of working that you had down cold doesn't work any more, it's a pain, of course.

StepD
Danny, if you have all of your buses the same size and one bus fills the bus pane like in your vid, the up and down arrows on the keyboard will scroll one track at a time, so that's an option.

I think clicking on the up and down boxes on scroll bars do this too.

For my money, the new mouse wheel behaviour is much more natural.