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2014/04/24 18:33:13
jb101
As I mentioned in another thread, maybe have a look at Jam Origin's MIDI guitar.
 
From what little time I've had to play with it, it has impressed me so far.
 
There is a free demo, too.
2014/04/24 21:15:42
Cactus Music
That's interesting Mike, could you elaborate? Most reviews give it a thumbs up. I understand the limitations of guitar synths so I'd be interested in what you had issue with. You certainly have to adapt your playing style with them, but the same would be true of converting an audio guitar track with Melodyne. 
 
Interesting software jb, I'm downloading now. Will give it a go, but $100 is to much if all it does is duplicate what Melodyne already does. 
2014/04/24 21:51:16
arachnaut
Not MIDI, but still cool:
 
Just got this great solo guitar demo tutorial from Celemony in my mail:
 
http://www.celemony.com/e...GuitarTechniques-SD-HD
2014/04/24 22:49:28
kennywtelejazz
jb101
As I mentioned in another thread, maybe have a look at Jam Origin's MIDI guitar.
 
From what little time I've had to play with it, it has impressed me so far.
 
There is a free demo, too.


 
as a guy who not only has owned a midi guitar since 1982 ..
who also happened to work at Manny's Music on West 48 th street in the gtr dept  for years …back in the day
 
I haven't seen much happen over the past few  years that has  improved much over my current hardware midi guitar 
 
I'm vey impressed with the Jam Origin's Midi Guitar …it tracks better than my hardware midi guitar 
 
anyway,
I'm not looking to spam you guys with my latest tune , but I did use that plug to input all my synths via the guitar 
in this song 
every note was played via my guitar except the bass which I played in real time and the drums ..the drums were midis from Addictive Drums
 
Guitar  Synth Soundscape 
 
https://soundcloud.com/guitarist-kenny-wilson/guitar-synth-soundscape
 
 
Kenny
2014/04/24 23:11:24
mmorgan
Cactus Music
That's interesting Mike, could you elaborate? Most reviews give it a thumbs up. I understand the limitations of guitar synths so I'd be interested in what you had issue with. You certainly have to adapt your playing style with them, but the same would be true of converting an audio guitar track with Melodyne. 
 
Interesting software jb, I'm downloading now. Will give it a go, but $100 is to much if all it does is duplicate what Melodyne already does. 




Hi Cactus. I had high hopes for the Fishman which was why I made the purchase. In standalone mode I was never able to set the input to ASIO without a crash. That is the primary thing. I've had issues with DAWs where I have installed a track with the Fishman where suddenly it seems I have introduced instability. I cannot attribute causality to the Fishman but I do note that a particular project may be edited for hours/days with no issues and I try and introduce the Fishman and some time later (as in that editing session) I have a crash...in the sense of a lockup. Again I can't attribute causality but I keep seeing it happen...I attribute it the aforementioned ASIO setting but I could be wrong.
 
I have previously worked with my Axon AX100 MK II with a Godin SA nylon string guitar...Have you ever tried restringing a nylon stringed guitar? Not for the faint of heart  But the AX100 has always been flawless.
 
It may be of some interest to others that based on the current SOS review of MIDI Guitar I D/L and installed and I'm having the same issue with setting the sound card driver to ASIO. I have a trouble ticket in to those folks so I'm hopeful.
 
In the end I think I should just take lessons on keyboards. LOL
 
Regards,
2014/04/24 23:47:03
Cactus Music
OK. so it might not work with Sonar, but in stand alone mode did it track OK? 
 
Hi Kenny, yes I've always wanted a Godin. I used to sell the whole line back in the 90's just when that came out. They do make the steel string version but run around $1,000. 
I still have my old GR 50 but the synth is pretty old school. 
 
I just opened the Jam Software, looks like freeware but I'll give it a go.. might need a better computer then I have for latency. 
2014/04/25 00:03:58
mmorgan
Cactus how would stand alone solve my issue if I'm tracking in a DAW? The Fishman tracks okay within a given DAW until I have a system lock up...which is not something I want in either mode, hosted or standalone. It may track okay in standalone but I'm a studio rat into production not live performance. My guess, though, is that if I can't set the output to ASIO I'm up she-ite creek with means of propulsion.
 
Regards,
2014/04/25 00:29:38
mudgel
I've had great success with my AX100 using my rebuilt strat with a complete Graphtec Ghost hexpander system. It's so much better to start with the MIDI than to have to convert existing audio to midi.
Mind you if that's all you can do, Melodyne's a great tool to have in your kit bag.
2014/04/25 02:46:06
mettelus
kennywtelejazz
I'm not looking to spam you guys with my latest tune , but I did use that plug to input all my synths via the guitar 
in this song 
every note was played via my guitar except the bass which I played in real time and the drums ..the drums were midis from Addictive Drums



I bought a GR-30 years and years ago but never used a DAW much at that time, so sadly it went back in its box. After this post I may have to get that out again and give it another workout. I never even tried to connect it to a computer way back when.
 
2014/04/25 05:19:40
kennywtelejazz
mettelus
kennywtelejazz
I'm not looking to spam you guys with my latest tune , but I did use that plug to input all my synths via the guitar 
in this song 
every note was played via my guitar except the bass which I played in real time and the drums ..the drums were midis from Addictive Drums



I bought a GR-30 years and years ago but never used a DAW much at that time, so sadly it went back in its box. After this post I may have to get that out again and give it another workout. I never even tried to connect it to a computer way back when.
 




imho . I would say you have nothing to loose by dusting off your midi guitar interface and plugging it into your DAW...
guitar synths are somewhat finicky when it comes to the pitch to voltage midi conversion so you might have to bone up on some of your guitar playing chops  …
once you find a happy medium of what you can play cleanly onto your DAW you might be very surprised at what you may be able to accomplish…….
once you get started , remember the piano roll is your friend  
 
heres an example a song that I did where the midi guitar part is playing the Sax melody….Dimension Pro 
 
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=427899&songID=6167830
 
this clip was done in 2008 . I played  my Ibanez IMG 2010 with the  MC1 interface…..
 
btw...I just  listened to it to see if I wanted to post it here after all this time …
i was still somewhat green on how to use a DAW when I recorded this , so I'm putting myself out there on a limb….
if you can look past the genre, the mix , some of the rendered BIAB backing track cheesyness and say OK the sax part was done on a midi guitar by a guy who can't even play chopsticks on a piano even if his life depended on it ….
then my example might be of some value to you ...
interestingly enough , even if I could play the sax part on a keyboard it wouldn't of had the same nuances that the guitar as a midi controller brought to the table ….
 
Kenny
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