kennywtelejazz

jb101
As I mentioned in another thread, maybe have a look at Jam Origin's MIDI guitar.
 
From what little time I've had to play with it, it has impressed me so far.
 
There is a free demo, too.

 
I'm vey impressed with the Jam Origin's Midi Guitar …it tracks better than my hardware midi guitar 
 
 
Kenny

Me too.
 
I like the fact that you can set whether or not it will track string bends as well.
 
It's so easy to use, and being able to control any synth, with very low latency is great.
 
I remember playing round with guitar synths in the eighties - I had to change the whole way of how/what I played, and even how I held the guitar.  This software is pretty nice, and great fun.

jb101

kennywtelejazz

jb101
As I mentioned in another thread, maybe have a look at Jam Origin's MIDI guitar.
 
From what little time I've had to play with it, it has impressed me so far.
 
There is a free demo, too.

 
I'm vey impressed with the Jam Origin's Midi Guitar …it tracks better than my hardware midi guitar 
 
 
Kenny

Me too.
 
I like the fact that you can set whether or not it will track string bends as well.
 
It's so easy to use, and being able to control any synth, with very low latency is great.
 
I remember playing round with guitar synths in the eighties - I had to change the whole way of how/what I played, and even how I held the guitar.  This software is pretty nice, and great fun.

+1
a couple of other things I also like about the Midi Guitar plug is it has an onboard tuner that is easy to access ,
it's even polyphonic .
you can also see what's going on with how much signal your guitar is putting through it in the wave form view...
the amp/ effects output section is pretty interesting . 
adding a vst audio effect and applying it to the audio signal of my guitar combined with the midi synth that was being triggered was a pretty awesome thing to have access to sound wise .  I've only used that feature in stand alone playing so far .
 
I've had decent results playing any electric guitar i own through it , that includes Jazz Box's with flat wound 012's...
there's a lot of freedom in being able to do that 
I like the plug for sure and I have no affiliation w Jam O…. 
 
Kenny
 

Thanks for the post Kenny! I am starting to delve back into keyboard lately, but the pitch/mod wheels don't feel the same as playing those same notes on a guitar. Ideally, I would prefer to record the MIDI information in case I wanted to change the instrument at a later point, but not sure if the GR-30 sound bank can be used without running a loop to the physical hardware (trying to remember now what the software was that came with it). I guess that is sort of moot, since I really should learn that part anyway as folks do it with keyboards all the time. I guess I have my new "weekend project."

mettelus
Thanks for the post Kenny! I am starting to delve back into keyboard lately, but the pitch/mod wheels don't feel the same as playing those same notes on a guitar. Ideally, I would prefer to record the MIDI information in case I wanted to change the instrument at a later point, but not sure if the GR-30 sound bank can be used without running a loop to the physical hardware (trying to remember now what the software was that came with it). I guess that is sort of moot, since I really should learn that part anyway as folks do it with keyboards all the time. I guess I have my new "weekend project."

your welcome 
 
here's a couple of quick things off the top of my head that I like to do when I'm using a hardware midi guitar...
 
1, make sure it is absolutely dead on in tune ...  
 
2 , keep it simple and pick the same midi channel for all six strings if your just looking to lay down parts one at a time ...
later on when you feel like experementing around you can always set up a synth like the Dimension Pro with 4 separate instruments on different midi channels and see what happens when setup your midi guitar to have different sets of strings set to different midi channels.  
 
3 , these hardware midi guitars  can be vey glitchy so figure out what range of the synth you are looking to play 
for example , if you are playing a lot of low notes on the low E and the low A and what you are looking to play isn't using much of the higher strings of the midi guitar ….transpose your midi guitar to play an octave lower ...
by transposing you midi guitar to play an octave lower you can now use the most effective range of you hardware midi guitar  midi guitars always seem to play a lot better on the top 4 strings …very few glitches happen there compared to the 2 low strings…..
the same goes for an octave higher ..if your high strings a glitchy ..play your parts on the middle strings 
 
4 , experiment with the patch that tracks the best on your system and use it when you record the midi data
then change it over to what you want later on..
what I mean by that is suppose you have a patch you know you want to use , but when you record it , it doesn't record smooth … I've had this happen to me plenty of times ...
I pick a patch I know I can play with a fast attack so I can stay in time with the tempo of the song ...
I did that with the Sax thing I posted …I used a piano sound as I recorded and while I was recording / playing I tried my best to think like a Sax…..
once I was somewhat happy with the performance I switched the patch over to Sax and messed around with the velocities 
 
5 , it's not cheating when the songs tempo is faster then what your hardware guitar synth can play for you to change the tempo for midi guitar tracking 
it is always better for you to slow the song down a little so you can comfortably play your hardware guitar synth in tempo with the song …this works great if everything is still in midi 
 
6 , it is always a good idea to use the metronome in addition to what ever you happen to be playing along with ….
 
7, when I doubt , always remember the piano roll is your friend 
 
having to put this together was fun …I hope it can help 
 
Kenny

For comparison, I converted the Guitars Direct input using Melodyne and show it compared with the midi track recorded from the Roland GR-20. The GR-20 is closer to what I intended, but they are both very close.
 

I may not be using Melodyne to its full potential, but have not seen any pitch/modulation wheel info created with an "audio to MIDI" conversion. Can this be done?
 
I do remember after reading Kenny's post that the lower strings were "flaky" using the GR-30, but I have not gotten this out again yet to try it. Since the processor correlates bends, I am assuming that a MIDI out of the GR-30 would send those to SONAR, but do not "know" yet.
 
I guess the feature I am most interested in is being able to capture MIDI with the pitch/modulation, especially if recorded via a guitar.

mettelus
I guess the feature I am most interested in is being able to capture MIDI with the pitch/modulation, especially if recorded via a guitar.

Try the free demo of Jam origin's MIDI Guitar.

You can choose whether you want string bends/vibrato picked up or not. It workes really well.

Three nights ago I installed Jam Origin's MIDI Guitar for evaluation (this was based on the review in SOS). I was very impressed by it's performance so I made the purchase. I have been testing against my other guitar MIDI controllers and it seems better particularly if one is willing to use the built in controls for setting sensitivity.
 
+several for Jam Origin MIDI Guitar.
 
Regards,

RE: Jam Origin MIDI Guitar
Just drop the dll into the VST folder?
On their website they mention a registry change when using Sonar X2; is that necessary?
 
T

For me, the patch is crucial for MIDI guitar to work correctly. I always set each string to its own channel, so that the target voice can be set to monophonic. That way it feels and plays more like a real guitar, which can play only one note per string.
 
Rapture is great for MIDI guitar...six elements each on their own channel, with the option of one note per element.