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2012/04/01 08:30:12
timidi
I was playing with 'Studio Instruments' that came with X1.

Is it just me, or is there no velocity sensitivity? Or, a switch for it somewhere?
2012/04/01 18:33:25
timidi
bump
2012/04/01 19:29:00
Jonbouy
Never used 'em.

The only reason for me to say that is in order to re-bump the thread of course.
2012/04/01 19:50:54
larrymcg
I just did some testing with HomeStudio7xl and Studio Instruments Piano.  My input was a keyboard synth.

What I observed was that it was velocity sensitive but you had to get way down on the velocity before you noticed any reduction in sound.  And then when you have high velocity the quality of the sound changes.

So SI-Piano is velocity sensitive.  I don't see a way to change how it interprets velocity (linear, exponential, whatever).

The easiest way to really figure out what it is doing is to input midi notes (like lots of the same quarter notes) and then edit the velocity of the notes to go thru various ranges of velocity.

--Larry

2012/04/01 20:04:28
larrymcg
A bit more testing shows that the SI-Piano response to velocity is dependent on the particular patch.  One I tried (I think it was Ballad Piano) had a fairly normal response to velocity.  Another one (Stage Piano) seemed to have only 3 or 4 different levels.

--Larry

2012/04/02 11:27:24
timidi
Thanks Jon and Larry. 

I was kind of liking the sound of the elec piano (rhodesy sound)  (I forget if it's the S1 or not). 
Anyway, at this point, I find them un-usable. Too bad. Just another half baked recipe.
Maybe Cakewalk should look into getting a new oven.
2012/04/02 11:34:21
Lynn
Tim, I've used all the SIs, and they're as velocity sensitive as any VST. I don't know what you use for a controller, but some have velocity curves that can be variable. Check to see if yours is on, and if you can change it to wide open, IYKWIM.
2012/04/02 11:43:22
DeeringAmps
Tim,
The electric pianos are the only thing I've really used. "SubtleChorus" has worked for me in the past.
ModBod has bemoaned the fact that SI has never lived up to its potential.
I whined early on about the bass sounds.
Shame really...

T
2012/04/02 11:43:39
groovey1
I use the piano and bass instruments fairly regularly. I also find they are velocity sensitive, but like Larry points out, they don't seem to have very many velocity layers. On instruments where the sound quality changes a lot depending on how hard they are played (like some epianos) this is quite noticeable.
2012/04/02 12:00:57
ba_midi
Jonbouy


Never used 'em.

The only reason for me to say that is in order to re-bump the thread of course.


I haven't either.  I generally stay away from those types of instruments/plugins.  I call them "French Fries."  They come as side orders, sometimes we eat them, but they're mostly oil and fat lol.


That doesn't mean that some find good use with them, I'm sure some do.  But they tend not to be top-of-line stuff and with all the amazing options and products available today (some free) there are just better alternatives imho.




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