rbowser
 
 Yet more extra work to make X3 behave.
 
Randy B.

rbowser
 
 I've worked that way for several years.
Randy B.

Working in X3 like you did in 8.5 isn't going to give you the results you expect. You will get frustrated and over work your self.
 
Time to learn a new way!

Grem...Time to learn a new way!...

Rightio, Grem, that's what I'm doing. 
 
On this one particular thread topic, I still don't understand why just a week ago, when I opened a plugin's GUI in Sonar 8.5, it would stay to the front until I clicked to close it.  I saw Noel's post saying that nothing's changed, but I beg to differ since how this worked in 8.5 is still completely fresh in my mind.  GUIs stayed in front until dismissed.  Whether there was some arcane setting somewhere in Windows that I had in place to make that work, I can't say.  All I know is that I suddenly need to use a work-around for this, and all the work-arounds mentioned here make the process Slower.  It's a small thing, but it's a step backwards that makes the work flow clumsier for me.
 
Randy

It could have been a 32 bit plugin and in 64 bit Sonar it will stay on top.  

I never really used Console view before the X Series. But then I discovered the magic key command - D - when I want something faster than screensets.
 
Here's what I do...
 

• Have the Track view, browser, and inspector spread across two monitors, with the dock at the bottom. Spreading the track view across two monitors lets me see the whole tune comfortably.
• Click on the Console tab, and adjust the Console splitter bar all the way to the top (or leave a sliver for the Navigator or Track View to show the current song position).
• Type D to toggle between the Console view and the Track/Inspector/Browser view. Because the Console view is in the dock, if I want a "big screen" PRV that's only a click away too.

 
This is GREAT for mixing because with one key, I can toggle back and forth between mixing and editing. By stretching the Console across two monitors, I can have the strips in "wide" view, which to me is what makes the Console useful.
 
This takes care of 85% of my mixing needs; for the other 15%, there are screensets. 
Next to Ctrl-S and Ctrl-Z, D is probably my most-used keyboard shortcut. Next would be the custom key bindings for zoom in and out horizontally.

I skip the initial screen adjustment between the dock and track view and use SHIFT-D instead of D to bring up docked views and D to collapse.

John
It could have been a 32 bit plugin and in 64 bit Sonar it will stay on top.  

All - I mean All plugins, once clicked open, would stay in front however long I liked, until I closed.  Scout's Honor, that's the way it was.
 
Randy

I can say without reservation that you remember it wrong Randy. Even Noel has confirmed it.  

John
I can say without reservation that you remember it wrong Randy. Even Noel has confirmed it.  

lol--I know you guys don't believe me.  But both you and Noel are incorrect.  I was using 8.5 just one week ago, and what I'm talking about was a standard part of my every day routine.  Click a plugin's icon, it would stay in front of the Console until I clicked it closed.  Very convenient.  You may as well think I'm not right that I put both feet on the ground in the morning before walking.  I had it that way for so many years, it's possible I had some special utility that accomplished that - I can't remember.  I'll look around for it.  Your method is fine, but looks messy to me, I would just have to get used to it.  Thanks.

Randy

scook
I skip the initial screen adjustment between the dock and track view and use SHIFT-D instead of D to bring up docked views and D to collapse.

What you describe sounds like it might be useful to my workflow, but there's something about it I'm not understanding. If I set the view for the "sliver," I get the expected results when I use Shift-D, but reverts to some kind of default setting after I've exercised the D shortcut a few times. Can you give a few more details of how you use Shift-D?

By the way, I wonder why plugin GUIs stay on top when they're in front of the Track View?  But they do, the way I wish they did in Console View.  But since they stay put there in TV, it proves that it's not correct that it's just a Windows thing where whatever has focus moves to the front, blocking other windows.
 
Randy