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  • [Solved] My old hardware wouldn't support SONAR X2 - RME soundcard to the rescue (p.2)
2013/06/18 08:49:27
Dave Modisette
robert_e_bone
Is there anything from this thread that applies?
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2726466
 
Bob Bone
 


I skimmed through that thread and I read some interesting things to consider.  Thanks for posting that.
2013/06/18 09:03:30
Resonant Order
I think someone else has already posted this in another thread, but it seems that X2 and Slate VCC don't get along. I went from somewhat stable to crashfest once I started using VCC. Currently not having a crashfest with VCC with my new host. It seems that something changed with X2, because I didn't see that behavior in X1, but consider X1 to be woefully incomplete when it comes to workflow.
2013/06/18 09:16:19
fooman
I use X1, but for other reasons.  But I'd like to comment on Slate.
 
Slate and Sonar are not best friends, but I use VCC and VTM on every mix.
VCC does cause sessions to crash upon loading in X1 often enough for me to have to consider that it may happen (no walking away while session loads, it may crash at any time).  I'd say it crashes 10% of the time.. maybe more I'm not sure I've lived with it since day one.  Restart X1, reopen project.  Often doesn't crash twice.
Once loaded, it works well for me.
 
VTM has a very sporadic issue of clicking/crackling when you re-open a project from time to time.  It doesn't always happen, and I can't determine what makes it happen.  Annoying, but bearable.

Good luck on finding the core issue!
2013/06/18 09:19:57
Dave Modisette
tecknot
Well, Dave, it was nice having you here on the CW forums all these years.  But as you know, those who complain and announce they are leaving SONAR (X2 in your present case), should just move on and not bash our beloved product.  So, stop the trolling...you should know better...
 
JUST KIDDING!  I just wanted take advantage of this kind of tread like most others have.  Although I am aware of your use of other DAW software (harvest time, hint, hint), I hope you stick around here.  You've always been insightful, level headed with your generous help and suggestions (and "pitches").  I do hope your resolve your problematic system.  I hear you can't go wrong with RME.  (I use a Focusrite Saffire myself.)
 
Kind regards,
 
tecknot


True, I'm not leaving the Cakewalk product but merely rolling back to a version that works for what I have (hardware and 3rd party software-wise).

Truth be told, I don't have a single DAW software product that I am satisfied with as I push into more and more commercial project studio territory.  Cakewalk acts like a midi sequence with an audio product bolted onto it.  Samplitude acts like an audio recording product with a midi sequencer bolted onto it.  And Reaper acts like it was designed by a committee who bolted everything but the kitchen sink to it and there is someone working 24/7 adding new stuff to it.

So if I need midi, I have to start in SONAR.  If I feel like I need pristine sound in an audio project and I really want to utilize my MCU controller, Samplitude Pro X seems to work best.  Reaper is very powerful as well but the contributor who has created the best driver implementation for the MCU doesn't own an extender so he hasn't created a driver for it.

How I work through this temporary set of problems is driven by money - not that I don't have any (money) to do what I want but where to put the money to get the most bang for the buck.  I would rather buy another very nice preamp or channel strip and mics than buy computer gear at this stage because I've found that when I put a client in front of a U87 going into a nice channel strip and they hear a "familiar" tone to their voice that they recognize from commercial recordings, it put's them in the mood to perform and spend money.  Add to this, the "time" factor.  I don't want to be down while I install gear and troubleshoot unknown hiccups with unfamiliar computer gear.

Thanks everyone for listening to me sort through my thoughts about this.
2013/06/18 09:22:24
Dave Modisette
Resonant Order
I think someone else has already posted this in another thread, but it seems that X2 and Slate VCC don't get along. I went from somewhat stable to crashfest once I started using VCC. Currently not having a crashfest with VCC with my new host. It seems that something changed with X2, because I didn't see that behavior in X1, but consider X1 to be woefully incomplete when it comes to workflow.


I think we see eye to eye on this.  I really miss the take lanes in X1.
2013/06/18 13:50:08
Ludvig
Sorry to hear about your problems Mod Bod. I'm also one of your fans although we've never been introduced.
The only crashing problems I have with SONAR X2a on Windows 8 64 is with the iZotope plug-ins, which I regard highly. They use the same copyright protection as Slate, the infamous iLok 2. Maybe that could be the problematic factor?

Best Regards
Ludvig
2013/06/18 13:53:48
stevec
Ludvig
Sorry to hear about your problems Mod Bod. I'm also one of your fans although we've never been introduced.
The only crashing problems I have with SONAR X2a on Windows 8 64 is with the iZotope plug-ins, which I regard highly. They use the same copyright protection as Slate, the infamous iLok 2. Maybe that could be the problematic factor?



Did you have the same issue on Win7?   I only ask because I'm running Ozone 5 with X2a on Win7 64, but I'm using offline activation instead of i-lok.
 
2013/06/18 18:04:04
VariousArtist
Sorry to hear about your woes Mod Bod. I know that, from time to time, I have used an older version of Sonar because a certain project just doesn't want to play nice in a more recent version.

That being said, it is highly unlikely that a BSOD is tied to a specific version of Sonar. More specifically it is a hardware issue that might be quite random, and if it appears to be related to any software then the fault still lies with the hardware.

It's hard to take a screenshot when you get a BSOD (to say the least!), but next time it happens can you take a photo (e.g. with your phone) and post it here? At a minimum, try to make a note of what the first couple of lines say, and maybe we can help nail down the true underlying cause.

For more info:
http://repairpcguide.com/...ath-and-how-to-fix-it/
2013/06/18 18:16:45
Riz
I'm experiencing the same problem (post "Strange and Disturbing Sound"). In 48 hours I went from fully functional to dead in the water.
2013/06/18 18:23:27
Ludvig
stevec
Ludvig
The only crashing problems I have with SONAR X2a on Windows 8 64 is with the iZotope plug-ins, which I regard highly. They use the same copyright protection as Slate, the infamous iLok 2. Maybe that could be the problematic factor?



Did you have the same issue on Win7?   I only ask because I'm running Ozone 5 with X2a on Win7 64, but I'm using offline activation instead of i-lok.



I went straight from Windows XP 32 to Windows 8 64.

Best Regards
Ludvig
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