Well,  my first real gripe with Sonar here.  I spent ALL NIGHT on synth sound design.   Decided to freeze some tracks (to save on CPU), everything sounded fine.  I unfreeze, and guess what, ALL CUSTOM SOUNDS GONE!!  The softsynths revert back to pre-installed patch #1.   I could kill right now!!!!
 
Anyone else ever see this garbage?   

I take it you didn't bother to save anything before you froze things. I suppose that you didn't bother to save the custom patches you made either? 
 
I like to use save as for being able to going back and having a project I haven't screwed up available. 

John
I take it you didn't bother to save anything before you froze things. I suppose that you didn't bother to save the custom patches you made either? 
 
I like to use save as for being able to going back and having a project I haven't screwed up available. 

 
Point is; there should be a HUGE WARNING saying that you will lose ALL sounds!    Or better yet, fix this flaw :)

Had you saved the project before freezing? The synth settings are saved with the file when you save it. I'll try freezing/iunfreezing before and after saving a project to see what happens, and report back.
 
 

Doesn't matter whether I'm typing a Word document, working on an Excel spreadsheet or working on music I save a lot, and save revisions.  This enables you to always go back a step in case something unexpected happens.

Remember too that freezing doesn't freeze the synth. It renders the audio from the synth, based on whatever the current patch in RAM is at the time of freezing.

Well, I called up a synth patch, modified it, then froze the track. When I unfroze it, the changes I made were still there. I tried several times with various synths but couldn't reproduce the problem.
 
Can you provide steps?
 
That said...the best advice I ever got about computers was when I asked someone how often I should back up. His answer was "Whenever you've done something you don't want to lose." That advice has saved my butt many times with Windows machines.

I'm so particular about saving that I've set up a Windows server that not only backs up the OS on my computers but my project folders as well. Then twice each day that server does a backup of everything it has been backing up. This is just an old PC with a bunch of big hdd and Windows Home Server 2011.

I've lost data and swore never would again if I could help it. Save often save smart. And above all, never take it for granted.

After every editing session in Sonar, I make a backup copy of the CWP file.  It's normally only around 2MB in size, so drive space is not an issue.  I don't usually bother copying the audio folder, as it's rare that I ever need to retrieve lost audio.  For me, it's less about risk of data corruption and more about preserving the history of the project's development.  Projects evolve through thousands of changes, so it's useful to be able to revisit earlier versions to backtrack on something.

Kev999
After every editing session in Sonar, I make a backup copy of the CWP file.  It's normally only around 2MB in size, so drive space is not an issue.  I don't usually bother copying the audio folder, as it's rare that I ever need to retrieve lost audio.  For me, it's less about risk of data corruption and more about preserving the history of the project's development.  Projects evolve through thousands of changes, so it's useful to be able to revisit earlier versions to backtrack on something.

Exactly! I can say I have made a total mess of  project and if it weren't for a strategic project save as at the proper time I would have nobody but myself to blame.