Hi Craig, always happy to shake hands at the end of a stoush.  Sorry was asleep, just hitting 5 in the morn here.   I have a strict regime, which includes for the most part finishing work including forum arguments at about 5 in the evening. My ASD, as it's called now is very mild, more the social ****.  All I care about these days is my work, but in person I really am nice and probably much easier to like.  That's if I decide to talk to you, I can take a while to warm to you and trust u.
 
Also I said I wasn't 100% sure about the algorithms, in my experience it had introduced widespread artefacts.  But I was mainly dealing with audio snap.  So as you can see I said maybe I was wrong.
 
I was also being a **** again when it came to your solutions, I know that with enough fiddling most tape tricks can be achieved with your techniques.  As a creative person though they stop the creativity and just get in the way.  Hmm maybe I am lazy and the button is more appealing.  Or maybe I have a 6000 word paper to write (halfway through, its on the importance of the 60's and the popularising of the techniques that we all take for granted today), a major sound mapping project underway, about 10 deconstructed soundscape compositions to complete, an exegesis, a blog, photography and vids if time and 5.1 mixes oh and a minor project of building a speaker in an acoustic guitar which I will pipe some pastoral music through as I auto-destruct it (hmm I know maybe I will pour sulphuric acid over it, that just came to me) then I will improvise a mournful piece using a VST granular synth and my yourock guitar.    
 
I will just continue with Reaper, as you can see I don't have time for Craig's solutions, I'm lost in my work. All I care about is my work!!
 
As for JB, know I didn't speak to my supervisor about this, I did not get time.  I was to busy regaling him with my stories of Pete Townsend and Auto-Destruct rock and my own work.  But he was impressed because I had actually got to the half-way point of all the above work and it's only week six. 
 
As for the other guy wishing for me to get my comeuppance, that what's my mother said and wished.  I don't care, I don't care if I don't get grants or funding I will pay for it all myself, as I have always done.  I've already spent 700 bucks on this project and it will be at least a $1000 by the end of it, this doesn't include the new laptop either, or my monthly Office subscription, or my $150 a month internet cost, or the many 1000's of dollars I have spent on equipment over the last 10 years, which if I listed it all would make some of you drool.  Oh and I forgot my roughly 80,000 dollar hecs (student loan) debt.  It's called commitment!!!
 
I don't care, I have sacrificed everything for my art, for most of you this is a hobby for me it is my life.  I have no wife, no children, no family, but I have art, vision and a drive that would make the president of the USA look small when it comes to his drive for power.
 
So I want my PHD, not for grants but as a sign as a commitment to my art and passion.  Then no one will question me on these topics again.
 
Again Craig, this is my handshake to you.
 
Ben 

Hand shaken

Anderton

cityrat
I tried to wade thru all of the posts on this thread... so I may have missed the party here...
 
But do any of these "vari-speed" tips also "preserver pitch" ala the capability in REAPER?

y definition, tape varispeed preserves neither pitch nor duration. As a result, there are few quality constraints because data does not need to be created or removed; it simply needs to be shortened or lengthened.
 
ffline rendering algorithm, which produces higher quality due to the greater precision of the calculations. However, these calculations require significant CPU power, and therefore cannot be done in real time.

Thanks - I guess I'm confusing "vari-speed" with what REAPER is able to do pretty much on the fly.  Which is to change 'speed' either affecting pitch or not depending on what you desire.   Same type of 'speed with preserve pitch' that programs like RiffStation can do.  Invaluable for either learning songs - or - if you have trouble recording a piece 'at speed' a way to "cheat" on the take ;-)

Riffstation is pretty amazing IMHO, especially the way it can extract chords.

I for one am happy the information was presented, and I have copied the pertinent step to a text file for future reference without having to see the droll filler ever again. Thank you Craig!

I will be copying these techniques as well. I personally only need or want to use vari-speed occasionally.
 
Thank You Craig for the "here's how you can do that" thread. Spending your weekend on this is much appreciated!!!
 
For Ben and others who must have this feature - please follow protocol and fill out a feature request as mentioned in this thread numerous times. It doesn't take long to fill one of those out - I've done it numerous times over the years for things I deemed important. 

Anderton
Riffstation is pretty amazing IMHO, especially the way it can extract chords.

Chords, the different 'speed' to learn passages, the beat detection etc.
 
Yeah :) It's a lot of fun.   I bet Gibson would think it was cool if you could integrated it (guitar stuff and all) in with Sonar ;-)  Just kidding.... sorta....
 
I'm trying to write a feature request to get them to be able to extract into a midi file the chords and timing from a song.  Which could then be used as a basis in something like Sonar etc.
 
Sorry for off topic....

Thank you, Craig!  Good stuff.

Craig,
Awesome!
I just messed about with this and it's just what I've been wanting all along.
I can set the "double click" audio clip to open the Loop Construction window,
and speedily perform my varispeedos.
As far as I'm concerned, nothing more needed from Cake needed in this department.
Thanks man!

You're very welcome! It was an educational process for me, I had looked into this before but not very deeply. Wanting to come up with something repeatable and foolproof provided an incentive to refine the process, and now I'm finding it much more useful than the convoluted ways I did things previously. So I definitely got something out of this as well (including a Sound on Sound column, LOL) and even learned a bit about Asperger's. It's all good.