• SONAR
  • MIDI Effects 'Velocity' - Cannot select Change or Gradually (p.3)
2014/04/09 10:58:09
robert_e_bone
I did a bad thing - I didn't mean to, but without thinking had hijacked this thread.  I was meaning to circle back to see if the CAL script I was working up could be modified to give the OP another way to manipulate velocities, but never got back to it prior to scook getting him squared away.  I thought that while the particulars were different, that the use of a CAL script was also a potential solution for the OP.
 
My apologies to all, 
 
Bob Bone
 
2014/04/09 11:02:51
Scoot
I didn't realise 64bit was an issue for midi data, I guess Midi is not the concern, just the plug-in itself.
 
Seems you are right, found an alternate way to apply midi fx and change gradually does work.
 
Select clip> Process> Apply Effect> Midi Effect = Doesn't work, as it wants to apply an effect in the bin, which you can't set up.
Select clip> Left Click> Process Effect> Midi Effect> Cakewalk FX> Velocity> select Change or Gradually = Does work
 
The chord generator from the site that had the MidiCurve is great, so simple and intuitive.
 
2014/04/09 11:07:02
scook
robert_e_bone
 I thought that while the particulars were different, that the use of a CAL script was also a potential solution for the OP.


The problem with CAL in this case, just like the "Change Gradually" in the Velocity plug-in, is it cannot function in real-time. There are several CAL scripts included with SONAR which predate Velocity and perform some function included in it.
2014/04/09 11:10:08
scook
Scoot
I didn't realise 64bit was an issue for midi data, I guess Midi is not the concern, just the plug-in itself.
 

Yes, it is not the data, it is the dll, just like the other DX plug-ins. They must be ported to 64bit to work in a 64bit host.
2014/04/09 11:29:29
Scoot
scook
robert_e_bone
 I thought that while the particulars were different, that the use of a CAL script was also a potential solution for the OP.


The problem with CAL in this case, just like the "Change Gradually" in the Velocity plug-in, is it cannot function in real-time. There are several CAL scripts included with SONAR which predate Velocity and perform some function included in it.





I have no idea about cal, despite it being in pre Sonar cakewalk and being a bit clever back then. But I don't see how it can't be applied real-time for velocity, where the issue is the input dynamic range is low and needs expanding to output a new range. It's a simple computation of just interpolation of the input to output.
 

2014/04/09 11:36:56
scook
CAL does not process data in real-time.
2014/04/09 11:45:06
Scoot
Ahh I see. I've been wondering why the Cakewalk Midi 'Change' 'Gradually' had to be offline, so I had that on my mind.
2014/04/09 12:11:54
robert_e_bone
Yes - I ran the CAL script I wrote with transport stopped - processed in about a blink of an eye - which may vary I suppose, depending on what is being processed - dunno.
 
I was pleased that it was lightning fast for my needs though.
 
Bob Bone
 
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