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2014/03/21 11:14:03
robert_e_bone
OK - thanks for clarifying/confirming my understanding of your goals.
 
I am away from Sonar at the time being, but later on today (about 4 hours), I will jump into it and see if I can help you get this going - maybe someone can help you before that (he asks hopefully)....
 
Bob Bone
 
2014/03/21 11:21:04
succeed
Ok, Bob!
 
That sounds great! Thank you so much...
 
Andy
2014/03/22 00:47:03
swamptooth
hi andy.
 
there's no way to do this using the gain knobs as they send no midi data.  using the sliders from midi tracks isn't an option either, because they send only midi cc7 data which would require a 3rd party tool to remap the cc#s based on channel.  a 32 bit plug has other limitations as well.  
one possible solution would be to insert the plugin then use the automation lanes to insert a series of controls for each of the individual gains as shown here:  
 
then, you can use each of the sliders in the track view to control the gain knobs in the vst.  i think you might only be able to fit 15 at a time on it with a full hd screen.  you can also right-click each parameter slider and click "remote control" then midi-learn a cc from a physical controller.  
 
hth. 
 
2014/03/22 12:00:42
robert_e_bone
Yeah - I couldn't figure any way to do this backwards, outside of some 3rd-party program involvement.
 
Bob Bone
2014/03/24 17:56:32
succeed
Mmmmmm.... It´s not exactly perfect, but at least an option. Thank you for your support!
 
We have our first "digital" live gig next Saturday with a Windows 8.1 64bit machine, 16GB RAM, Sonar X3e Producer, a RME RayDAT card, two 64-Channel Appsys ADAT Multicore Extenders, modified Behringer ADA8000´s on stage and the Appsys Remote Gain Controller as well.
 
So far it runs very stable, at least during practicing. The fantastic RME ASIO driver is configured with 64 samples buffer and we use 18 input channels and 6 output channels for now. All that with less than 6ms (!!!) overall latency. It´s amazing! No problem of any kind so far.
 
Hopefully the gig goes as well...  ;-)     I will let you know how it went.
 
Andy
2014/03/24 23:26:03
swamptooth
cool! keep us posted. :D
2014/03/31 03:14:22
succeed
Yes, it worked just perfectly. Not a problem at all. Easy setup, a great sound and a happy audience. The other band members were very skeptical before ("We never did it that way.... blah blah blah") but the result did even convince them. And - thanks to Sonar - an easy multi-track live recording is now just a mouse click away.........
 
Keep rockin´
Andreas
2014/03/31 10:33:57
tacman7
I wanted to ask you about:
 
We are using three (temperature wise modified) Behringer ADA8000
 
 
I used to have one of those but it got hot and died.
 
What did you do to modify them?
 
Thanks
 
2014/04/01 02:48:40
succeed
Hi there!
 
The layout and positioning of some voltage regulators inside the ADA´s are poorly designed thus problematic. (I mainly followed Andreas Lembkes´ German directions to optimize the ADA´s.) All you need is some time, one new voltage regulator (type "LT1084 CP-5" incl. isolation material -  cost approx. $8 to $10), a soldering iron, an aluminum sheet (about 300 x 35 x 6 mm) and skill.   ;-)   
 
Please follow these instructions completely on your own risk:
  1. Remove power cable and open the ADA.
  2. Use the soldering iron to remove the three 7805 voltage regulators as shown in picture 1. 
  3. Carefully remove the two voltage regulators (LM7815 and LM7915) incl. their cooling element as shown in the bottom of picture 2.
  4. Remove the cooling elements from the regulators.
  5. Mount the aluminum sheet on the casing, as shown in pictures 2 and 3. You may use some heat sink paste.
  6. Attach the LT1084, LM7815 and LM7915 voltage regulators to the aluminum sheet. Use heat sink paste and make sure, that the regulators are electrically isolated to the aluminum.
  7. Carefully solder all cables as shown in the pictures.
That´s it. I found no difference in functionality, but the temperature sank from 90C/190F to 35C/95F !!!! Since it has been done, I have reliable and affordable units. After hours of operation the ADA´s just get lukewarm. 
 
Let me know how it goes...
 
Keep cool,  ;-)
Andreas
 

 

 

 
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