Hi there, I use Sonar Producer X3, I want to know how I can route to separate midi tracks.. for example, I use a VSTi plugin named Poise, it's an MPC-styled plugin with 16 drum pads.. now I want to know how I can separate those drum pads into 16 separate midi tracks & then trigger & also edit/mix them individually?
 
I'M DESPERATE!

The "normal" way is to record your MIDI in to 1 MIDI track and then separate the audio outputs in to separate AUDIO tracks for mixing

Ie your MIDI is one place for easy editing but you still have your kick, snare etc on different AUDIO tracks so you can process and mix them separately

The advice on how to do this will vary from synth to synth but in the "insert soft synth" dialogue you are looking for the enable multi outs options (I am not at my daw now so can't remember the exact option)

I believe it is then possible to split out the MIDI on to separate tracks using a cal script later if you want to but I haven't done this for ages


I am sure others with more MIDI knowledge will chip in but as you are desperate this is where I would start poking around if you still want separate MIDI track...

you will need to have 16 separate MIDI tracks

You will then need to ensure all drum elements output on SEPARATE MIDI channels

You will then need to ensure every MIDI track's input is set to the right MIDI device AND channel

You will then need to ensure each MIDI track outputs to its own AUDIO track for mixing/processing later


This seems a real faff to me so I would recommend exploring the first option

If you do want it the second way make sure you save a "track template" so you can easily insert this setup into future tracks

I hope this steers you on to the right path

There is a Cal that will do exactly what you are asking.  I’m not at my off line music computer right now but I think the name of that Cal in something like split by note.  Search your Cals and you will find it.

thanks guys :)

I would like to understand your goal for splitting all of these into separate midi tracks, as it would be an editing NIGHTMARE, in my opinion, so please elaborate.  :)
 
If, for instance, you wanted to change some rhythm (who thought of that spelling, by the way), you would have to go into each midi track and delete/insert only the events for that one kit piece, and go to the next track to do the same, which I think would be a giant pain in the rear.
 
What many folks do is have a single midi track for all the drum data, with each kit piece having its audio output from the drum synth sent to its own audio track.  This method gives complete audio control over each kit piece (volumes, effects, panning), while making editing midi data for the whole drum kit much easier.
 
Using the above method, you can still work on one particular midi note's events, using the Event Filter, so you could still operate on just that one kit piece's data, if you wish, but you get all the ease and flexibility of having it all together.
 
Having all the events together in a single midi track is still not cluttered, as you won't have more than 4 events occurring at the same time, at most, as a drummer only has 4 limbs - and even there the events are in more of a staggered appearance.
 
Bob Bone
 

well, I wont use ALL the channels.. but if I have a kick & a snare occupying two drum pads on the VSTi (obviously triggered by certain keys on my midi keyboard), i'd like to separate those two after they're recorded onto one track.. After separating them, i'll then mix them separately.. but after recording, I just cant seem to separate the kick & snare, which I can easily do in a program like PreSonus Studio One..

To get separate audio outputs from Poise, rename the dll. For all 16 ouputs create a "Poise 16 Out.dll". This is covered in the Poise manual on page #4 under the heading "Using Fixed Output Configurations of Poise". When inserting the renamed dll in a project select the "MIDI Source" and "All Synth Audio Outputs: Stereo" to show all the audio outputs associated with the synth. After configuring an instance of Poise, you may want to save all the tracks and buses associated with the synth for future use as a track template.
 
After this if you really want multiple MIDI tracks feeding Poise:
if there is an existing MIDI data in a track, run the "Split Notes to Tracks.CAL" otherwised
add as many MIDI tracks as you want with the outputs set to the plug-in.

scook
To get separate audio outputs from Poise, rename the dll. For all 16 ouputs create a "Poise 16 Out.dll". This is covered in the Poise manual on page #4 under the heading "Using Fixed Output Configurations of Poise". When inserting the renamed dll in a project select the "MIDI Source" and "All Synth Audio Outputs: Stereo" to show all the audio outputs associated with the synth. After configuring an instance of Poise, you may want to save all the tracks and buses associated with the synth for future use as a track template.
 
After this if you really want multiple MIDI tracks feeding Poise:
if there is an existing MIDI data in a track, run the "Split Notes to Tracks.CAL" otherwised
add as many MIDI tracks as you want with the outputs set to the plug-in.

THANK YOU! This helped

SineMbali
well, I wont use ALL the channels.. but if I have a kick & a snare occupying two drum pads on the VSTi (obviously triggered by certain keys on my midi keyboard), i'd like to separate those two after they're recorded onto one track.. After separating them, i'll then mix them separately.. but after recording, I just cant seem to separate the kick & snare, which I can easily do in a program like PreSonus Studio One..

You're missing the point.
You don't need ANY midi tracks splitting out in order to mix them separately, you need separate AUDIO out, as already explained by Bob.
 
Keep you midi all one one track
 
But also follow scooks advice to get 16 audio outs all present & correct in Sonar

alright... I see.. but if someone would explain Bob's method, I cant seem to do it.