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  • Why did Yamaha stop producing the NS10's?
2012/02/08 15:54:02
ChuckC
Seems like another one of those morron moves huge companies make all the time.   They had a model that had become so successful it was the industry standard monitor.   Can't have that now can we?  We better discontinue it.   Kinda like how Chevy stopped making the 350 engine,  or ford dropping the crown vic, and chrysler dropping the mini van... DUH!  those are the models that are your bread and butter.  Experiment elsewhere, Leave what is working well alone!
2012/02/08 16:44:51
zippsinc
Hi Chuck From what I recall reading somewhere, it was because one or more of the parts they used in them stopped being manufactured by another company. Yamaha apparently had no control over the issue. This may be rubbish but something I recall reading none-the-less. Stewart
2012/02/08 16:46:10
zippsinc
It appears the forum is ignoring paragraph convention
2012/02/08 17:24:46
Cactus Music
http://www.soundonsound.c...rticles/yamahans10.htm

the answer to your question. At the end of this story is this insert-

Goodbye NS10: Yamaha discontinued the NS10 in 2001 on the grounds that they were unable to source the pulp for the bass/mid cone, but I don't buy this. Firstly, they still seem able to manufacture replacement bass/mid drivers, and secondly, it was the cone shape and construction method that were the significant factors, not the specific paper pulp. This however begs the question why did they discontinue the NS10? I suspect it was a case of ignorance combined with market and margin pressures. Nakamura had moved on to pastures new in the organisation, and those left behind perhaps didn't fully appreciate what was so special about his speaker. It isn't difficult to imagine the sales department reporting back that they needed monitors with more bass, and the engineers responding with reflex loading.
2012/02/08 18:31:11
dmbaer
So, a related question is this: why hasn't some enterprising monitor manufacturer produced a clone that duplicates the original's sound and appearance?  Seems like it would be a sure-thing sales win for whoever managed to pull something like this off.
 
I've never researched this, but it's my understanding that prices on used NS10s in good condition are pretty dear.
2012/02/08 19:38:53
Cactus Music
We are all waiting! Like just about everything is re issued,  look at Fender Amps, they must have saw what the old amps were going for and smartened up. I saw my beloved 68 Princeton in a shop the other day, brand new, re issued ! Alas the wife was with me guarding the VISA card :(
 
If any one would re issue the design it would be Yamaha them selves. After all, they are run by accountants and accountants figure these things out. I treat mine like the crown jewels. I'm almost at the point that I will lock them in an environmentally controlled vault at night.
2012/02/08 20:40:25
mixmkr
as a guess, I have to think the NS10 are a small part of the Yamaha product income.  Basically lousy speakers in my opinion and they might have known that as well, and rather than keep pushing a 'standard', they wanted to improve.  They offer so many products, something like the NS10 isn't that significant.  They probably want to sell more MC7L consoles instead.   Again, just guessing.

Love my '88 LTD Crown Vic.... drive it every day!
2012/02/08 20:41:41
mixmkr
btw...I have a set of JBL 4311 and some Auratones... how come they don't make those anymore.  Both probably more popular than the NS10 ever was.   Probably because there is "better"??
2012/02/08 23:42:24
ChuckC
Ahh hell, I think I'll just go buy a nice set of 6x9's and put each one in a plywood box.  Write Yamaha on em with a sharpie and call it a day.
2012/02/09 08:42:20
The Maillard Reaction
I've been running a pair of old Auratones as window shakers for my patio.

They are hooked to a MOTU Traveler and Hafler power amp.

We only use the patio when the weather is nice. I open the window just enough to place speakers on the window sill.


The sound on the patio is striking and every now and then the house acts as a huge baffle and the bass response is alarmingly low... like a hidden sub harmonic from a kick or something that I have never heard on regular old big fella monitors..



Speakers give me the sizzzles.



best regards,
mike
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